and i've seen plenty of white youths with underwear on show, and know plenty of black people that dress smartly and shun jeans for trousers, jumpers, bow ties etc.... the problems start with sweeping generalisations.
I personally blame the Jews. Wait, this isn't the "say something controversial" thread? In regards to this. Ignorance does not equal racism. However, this also does not exclude Blatter of being racist. Overall, this debate is stupid and pointless. Nobody knows what Blatter actually thinks.
maybe its a generation thing, to me as a 20-something male, a family of blacks is derogatory, i think "a family that happen to be black" is much more appropriate, like when CP said "a footballer that happens to be black"
Are you for real? You need to burst the bubble you live in and enter the real world. What you said about a 'family that happens to be black' is ludicrous. It is smug leftist nonsense like that which continues to muddy the waters and offer real racists the ammunition they need. Oh, and another thing, do you really know many blacks who wear bow-ties instead of jeans? What a curious thing to say.
We aren't apologising for slavery, but because terms like "black ****" an similar terms were used for long periods of history in a derogatory way- it might be seen in the same light to some in these modern times?
Who is 'we', SuperC? The slavery debate is so absurd, it beggars belief. It is in the past. We all need to move on. Just a thought: surely it is just as bad to call someone a 'ginger twat' as it is to call someone a 'black twat'? But I do not recall many high-profile ginger footballers making claims of gingerism against other players. It must have happened.
curious how? Maybe I should ask all of my other halfs family if they all show their underwear when they walk around. Alot of her family have done well for themselves and go to and hold many private functions, hence the bow tie comment. How is that leftist, if you pluralise a race (Blacks, whites, hispanics etc) are you not just lumping people into a group, I'm not living in a bubble I happen to maybe from a younger, more socially aware generation that, even though we have our idiots, can clearly see what is acceptable in modern times.
Yes i know loads of black people who wear bow ties, they are all bouncers. You do not come from a more socially aware generation. You just think you do.
compared to a generation that thought gollywogs, blackface and segregation was acceptable. Stop trying to create an "us and them "mentality, those are racist undertones that I can clearly see in you and ponders.... and as for that bouncer comment, i find that irresponsible, and despicable....I think I will rename you Sepp.
You are so condescending, Block. To suggest that pluralising a race is insulting is plainly moronic. A family of individuals, black individuals, is a family of blacks. To nit-pick such a comment is ludicrous and indicative of an apologising generation. Having said that, I am only 32 years of age, and not a dinosaur of a bygone era. I live in the crime-capital of Britain where black crime is rife and causing every law-abiding citizen fear and misery. It is not racist to state that many blacks have ruined this area.
Block, you mention a 'them and us' mentality. How about all of the black associations that exclude whites because of their skin colour? Surely that is divisive? What a stir it would be if I created an 'Association of White Charlton Supporters'. You have been spoon-fed your thoughts and beliefs by the Labourites and Guardianistas. Generation Y.
Again, you are misreading, if you are pluralising in that context then that is not really acceptable, if the shoe was on the other foot, what would you say if you was referreD to as part of a family of whites? rather than " ohh thats the "surname" family, or a family of people. Ohh here we go with the crime-rate, you do realise that it is still a MINORITY of black people involved in criminal activity, just like there is a MINORITY of white people involved as well. All people are capable of crime, for you to suggest that "blacks" have ruined this area is incredible, black people have brought alot to the table as well, it wouldnt surprise me if you are one of these people that celebrates BWP's goals with less enthusiasm because of his skin colour!
White people are the majority, black people are generally not given a fair deal in issues such as police employment, therefore these associatoions are neccessary to highlight a socail stigma and imbalance, once everything is fair and balanced (or when this world is rid of bigots such as yourself) there won't be need for these associations. My own partner got called a monkey and had stuff thrown at her by a bunch of white youths driving past as she was wwalking home, do you find that acceptable??
Oh my word, Block, your posts are getting even more ridiculous. Come to Ponders End and I will show you the all that the blacks have brought to the table: murder, muggings, drugs, rape, filth and degradation. Do you think it is a coincidence that the most crime-ridden places in London are the black areas? It that how naive you are? Many blacks are moving out to Basildon, Reading and Stevenage to escape their own. But now the crime-rates are rocketing in those towns. These are facts that cannot be denied. Your comment about BWP is layered with contempt. A poor remark. You call me a bigot - which is easy for those of your ilk. Because you appease all and sundry you feel as though you have the right to insult at will. By doing so, you betray your own twisted logic and rank double-standards.
and I live in new cross, so frigging what and do you know the amount of white/chinese triads/ eastern europeans that cause crime, you are completely blinded by this need you have to be a superior because of the colour of your skin. you clearly have contempt for black people, you are a total racist and the most obnoxious person i've had the misfortune to communicate with. I hope I never see you down the valley.
Nice. You must have honed your debating skills at the Michaelhouse College, Cambridge. Such eloquent and well-balanced argument is rarely seen nowadays. You are getting upset for one reason alone: the truth is painful to someone whose credo is made up of Utopian ideals. I am stating facts to you, the cold, harsh truth of the problems that are inherent within the black community. How do you explain Operation Trident, the riots of Brixton and Broadwater Farm, and the alarming number of drugs related crimes committed by black people? The elders of the black community will tell you that there are deep-running issues within their communities. You should know this as you live in New Cross. As this debate is mainly about white on black racism, my points are focused on the troubles of the black communities. I am fully aware that there are problems with the Eastern-Europeans, travellers, Chinese Triads and Kurdish gangsters. Heaven knows there is enough white filth in this country. That is a debate for another day. I am sure you will defend those people just as robustly. But life is not all wishy-washy as you believe it is. Why do you think that I must love and cherish black people? I do not harm them, I do not abuse them, I do not wish them harm. I have many black friends who I debate with about the same issues, but they do not call me a bigot and a racist. You do not have the right to do so. It is due to you and your ilk's rainbow-visions, that you think everyone needs defending, when they are capable of doing so themselves. In fact, it is liberals like you who have the biggests chips on your shoulders and have created a society where you cannot say BOO to a goose. It is feeble, and the cause of this country's downfall. You must feel very proud of yourself.
I do actually, because you have missed my point entirely. and this is my favourite part "Why do you think that I must love and cherish black people? I do not harm them, I do not abuse them" then what the hell have you been doing in your previous posts, with your slanderous behaviour, the I got black friends line is the typical reaching of a racist thats been outed, goodnight!
How can stating facts be slanderous, Block? Why do you not accept fact as part of a debate? Your reasoning is lazy and misguided. You are upset because you have had to resort to calling me names. It has opened up that little compartment in your brain called REALITY. But as you struggle with the truth you make comments about my black friends, and how me mentioning them is my lasy bastion of defence. My defence is honesty. You will learn to deal with it when you grow up and realise that life is not all that you have read in Benjamin Zephaniah novels and The Guardian.
This whole sorry saga is all a bit pathetic really. I think Terry was just being descriptive - what he had in front of him was a black man who was in his eyes being a ****, hence why he called Anton 'a black ****'. If I was in Terry's place I would have probably just gone for 'you ****', as I wouldn't have felt the need to personalise the comment, i'd of just made sure he knew I was talking to him. But then, we are all made up differently. Terry shouldn't be hung out to dry because of what he said. End of the day, if you're black, you're black... if you're white, you're white... if you have ginger hair, you have ginger hair... Be proud of what you are and who you are. Rise above those who you consider idiots and get on with life. All we have here is just someone name-calling. Plain and simple. Like I said - pathetic really...
Ponders for PM...!! I agree 110% with every word of this... Oh and by the way lads, I'm not fat just porky...
