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  1. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    I haven't really been following the whole Syria thing, as I got bored by it months ago. What is happening, or is it just the usual pish? Hardly a surprise that Russia aren't agreeing with America though, is it?
     
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  2. eric cartman

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    What about Americas motives for wanting to go to war?

    If America was serious about human rights then they would not fund and support terrorists like Israel.
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

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    America don't want to go to war, according to them they want to destroy Syria's capacity to use Chemical Weapons. What motives do you think the US have with regards to Syria? Imperialist expansion?

    As for Israel, has Israel ever been accused of using Chemical weapons?
     
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  4. DevAdvocate

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    No Russia are the "good guys" apparently Monaco.
     
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  5. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    There was no condemnation from any if these countries when Saudi Arabia brutally cracked down on dissent within their own country, and likewise no condemnation when Saudi troops crossed the causeway and aided the Bahranian Sunni monarchy in brutally suppressing the protests from the Shia majority. Some spreading of democracy there.

    Yes and America have vetoed dozens of motions, sanctions and condemnations tabled about Israel in the UNSC, including their use of white phosphorous, a designated chemical weapon.
     
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  6. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    I take it you haven't been following this week's developments where mission creep has started to occur and Obama and Kerry are openly now talking about regime change.
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    Which countries?
     
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  8. monacoger

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    As a rule of thumb, I always say that Russia are bad guys and the USA are the good guys, but, I suppose I'm old fashioned/sensible that way.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    I've just posted Obama's statement which he made THIS MORNING. Where does he mention regime change in that?
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    Yeah me too i'm afarid.
     
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  11. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Dev I'm posting from my phone no am in no mood to begin engaging with you in your own particular brand of tedium.
    When I'm writing short, use some sense. Countries I refer to are logically the usual suspects in condemnation of the Syrian government (not regime - try and shy away from propaganda riddled emotive rhetoric), aka America, UK, France etc....
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    [h=2]Vladimir Putin is presiding over the worst era for Russian human rights since the Soviet Union, according to two new reports by Amnesty and Human Rights Watch.[/h]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10015065/Vladimir-Putin-creating-worst-human-rights-climate-since-Soviet-times.html

    Good guy <ok>
     
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  13. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Well the world has changed from the situation you were indoctrinated to believe in your Cold War military days. Try and not be so myopic
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    West = Bad

    Everyone else = Good


    Is that about it Jacky?
     
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  15. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    Mmm lets see . Should we let a country who sees its children being slaughtered indiscriminately by it's own citizens time and again and does absolutely heehaw about it be the moral standard bearer for the planet ?

    I think not .

    Throwing bombs at Syria will achieve nothing but death and destruction . It's their fight let them get on with it .
     
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  16. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Your simple Dev, I'm out
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

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    Just like your political viewpoint then?
     
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  18. eric cartman

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    and locking people up without trial is fair?
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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  20. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    <laugh> from a previous post it's apparent you believe a whistelblower who exposed warcrimes deserves punishment over those who committed the warcrimes. Tells me all I need to know about the warped morality of your political compass.
     
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