What makes you believe that so unquestioningly? It's just a negotiating technique. As I've said already, if no-one pays the full amount, we will obviously accept less in the end, but you'd be stupid to say you will accept less at the start.I have a strong desire to bang heads together, but I reserve my greatest ire for SFC...subsidise the guy's wages for God's sake...stop trying to save peanuts because you think you have Billy over a barrel. He has done nothing wrong (that we know about).