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Interesting theory, but why taunt Spurs fans with 7 league titles and 1 European Cup rather than 20 & 3 - with most of those won in living memory and not in the Victorian or Edwardian eras? <doh>
WUMs often use multiple accounts with various teams. Allegedly.
 
Yeah, it's not exactly great is it ? <laugh>

The focus has been on HIV until now due to numerous closely matching symptoms.

Had (urgent - although theyre probably all urgent) blood and poo taken this morning for wider testing.

Nurse who took the blood said theyll let me know if there's anything wrong <laugh>

So strange. Felt fine last night, woke up spewing foam. Now got the temperature back that I thought had finished a week ago !

I think it'll be alright, but feeling a bit jaded atm !

Edit : anyway, i won't bang on about it on here. Sorry.
First, I hope you feel better very soon. Second, my advice would be to get as many opinions as you can. Professionals are obviously best, but even one of those "enter the symptoms" sites might not be a waste of time. The chances of misdiagnosis is always great, and it sounds like at least one and probably more professionals have failed to diagnose the problem. Always try to find out what the doctors know and why they're recommending what they recommend. What the doctors know is valuable information. The decisions they make based on that knowledge are frequently questionable. The more opinions you get, the more chance you'll find out what the problem is. Watch particularly for when and if two diagnoses coincide. And always try the safest, quickest and easiest treatment first, if you're in doubt. Sometimes very disturbing symptoms can leave as mysteriously as they arrived. I do hope you feel better soon.
 
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Any doctors in the house ?

Violent stomach cramps (stomach like a washing machine, with 'music' coming out of mouth and bum) - 1 day
No symptoms - 7 days

The following over a 2 week period* :

Occasional stomach cramps- 2 weeks*
Very severe, hot, raging, acne like rash over shoulders and upper back - 1 week
Heavy fever - 1 week
Bad headache - 1 day
Confusion/aversion to loud noise - a few days
Almost total loss of appetite - 5 days
Red blotches appearing on thighs for a few minutes then vanishing - 10 days *
Very slight itching throughout body or in random places - approx 1 week
Seeing little blue dots when eyes closed - 2 days
Mouth full of white stuff - 1 morning
Blisters in mouth, leaking - 10 days (varying)
Very dry, red eyes - 2 days
Wild, crazy eyes - 1 morning
Huge, sudden losses of explosive animal like temper - 2 occassions lasting a few hours
Hard, sore glands in neck - 4 or 5 days
Slight pain in appendix - 2 days
Very heavy night sweats - twice
Terror - occassional
Loss of normal vision due to everything wobbling - 30 minutes
Shakes when falling asleep - repeatedly during 1 night
Small prickly rash on sole of foot - 4 days
Loss of balance, like being on a ship on rough seas all day - 3 days
Sudden stomach ache, (becoming instant) diorriah, and vomitting foam - 1 day *

* ongoing


HIV negative (lab test) @ minimum of 5 weeks
Apparantly not transmitted any virus, including to girls kissed shortly before rash

I take it they have checked for the obvious ones, Typhoid and Malaria? Have you been abroad recently?
 
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I take it they have checked for the obvious ones, Typhoid and Maleria? Have you been abroad recently?

Im beginning to think it's an insect bite mate.

Yes I was in philippines just before the rash broke out.

They took samples for other tests yesterday, and the doc mentioned malaria etc.

I suspect it's a kind of lighter version of malaria, and ive been a lucky boy re the hiv etc.
 
First, I hope you feel better very soon. Second, my advice would be to get as many opinions as you can. Professionals are obviously best, but even one of those "enter the symptoms" sites might not be a waste of time. The chances of misdiagnosis is always great, and it sounds like at least one and probably more professionals have failed to diagnose the problem. Always try to find out what the doctors know and why they're recommending what they recommend. What the doctors know is valuable information. The decisions they make based on that knowledge are frequently questionable. The more opinions you get, the more chance you'll find out what the problem is. Watch particularly for when and if two diagnoses coincide. And always try the safest, quickest and easiest treatment first, if you're in doubt. Sometimes very disturbing symptoms can leave as mysteriously as they arrived. I do hope you feel better soon.

Genuine thanks for your kind and wise thoughts and words. Much appreciated.

I'm feeling quite confident since last night, that we will get to the bottom of it fairly quickly now, and that it will prove not to be as terrible as I first thought. <ok>
 
Im beginning to think it's an insect bite mate.

Yes I was in philippines just before the rash broke out.

They took samples for other tests yesterday, and the doc mentioned malaria etc.

I suspect it's a kind of lighter version of malaria, and ive been a lucky boy re the hiv etc.

The Philippines is low risk for malaria but still possible. The rash is the bit that throws me, I never heard of rashes with malaria but I'm not a doctor. I will ask a friend who is a doctor (Ugandan) on Monday. He is an expert on such things, unfortunately he is on leave this weekend.

Furthermore, if you've been taking anti malaria medication, it sometimes masks the test results and you may have had malaria but the test may come back negative. All the sweats, shakes, diahorrea and vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, halucinations sound pretty malaria like to me.

You could have been really unlucky and picked up Typhoid as well, that would account for the non-malaria symptoms. However, if you've been vaccinated against Typhoid then you are likely to get a false positive in a blood test. I always test positive for Typhoid.

African doctors tend to recommend eating fatty foods after malaria, when I had it I bought a whole box of snickers and washed them down with orange juice. It was a fight to stomach them but they aided recovery.

Good luck and get well soon.
 
Genuine thanks for your kind and wise thoughts and words. Much appreciated.

I'm feeling quite confident since last night, that we will get to the bottom of it fairly quickly now, and that it will prove not to be as terrible as I first thought. <ok>

My experience is that Doctors do what they know. Only when they've gone through 'the usual routine' and failed do you get to someone who is paid to listen and think beyond that. A few years back I was told that I definitely had cancer, it was just where that cancer was. I kept telling the doctors of symptoms that suggested something else might be the case. Only after I'd had cameras shoved everywhere I could imagine and they'd found nothing did someone come to me and say...

"What were these other symptoms you said you had?"

Stick with it. Staying positive is THE thing. Thinking of you.
 
My experience is that Doctors do what they know. Only when they've gone through 'the usual routine' and failed do you get to someone who is paid to listen and think beyond that. A few years back I was told that I definitely had cancer, it was just where that cancer was. I kept telling the doctors of symptoms that suggested something else might be the case. Only after I'd had cameras shoved everywhere I could imagine and they'd found nothing did someone come to me and say...

"What were these other symptoms you said you had?"

Stick with it. Staying positive is THE thing. Thinking of you.

Very sorry to hear about your terrible experiences. God that must have been so frightening.

Many thanks for your kind words. I suspect I might know more in a few days.
 
Genuine thanks for your kind and wise thoughts and words. Much appreciated.

I'm feeling quite confident since last night, that we will get to the bottom of it fairly quickly now, and that it will prove not to be as terrible as I first thought. <ok>
That's very nice of you to say. I'm no professional but believe I've learned something worth passing on from dealing with major health issues in my family. :emoticon-0150-hands
 
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My experience is that Doctors do what they know. Only when they've gone through 'the usual routine' and failed do you get to someone who is paid to listen and think beyond that. A few years back I was told that I definitely had cancer, it was just where that cancer was. I kept telling the doctors of symptoms that suggested something else might be the case. Only after I'd had cameras shoved everywhere I could imagine and they'd found nothing did someone come to me and say...

"What were these other symptoms you said you had?"

Stick with it. Staying positive is THE thing. Thinking of you.
This is exactly in line with my experience.Doctors (like many others) get paid to get results quickly. That's one systemic problem with their process: they'll seize on the first sensible course of action. The second is that they have a number of interests other than your best, which include fear of litigation and the fact that they're paid per procedure (in this country, anyway).
 
The Philippines is low risk for malaria but still possible. The rash is the bit that throws me, I never heard of rashes with malaria but I'm not a doctor. I will ask a friend who is a doctor (Ugandan) on Monday. He is an expert on such things, unfortunately he is on leave this weekend.

Furthermore, if you've been taking anti malaria medication, it sometimes masks the test results and you may have had malaria but the test may come back negative. All the sweats, shakes, diahorrea and vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, halucinations sound pretty malaria like to me.

You could have been really unlucky and picked up Typhoid as well, that would account for the non-malaria symptoms. However, if you've been vaccinated against Typhoid then you are likely to get a false positive in a blood test. I always test positive for Typhoid.

African doctors tend to recommend eating fatty foods after malaria, when I had it I bought a whole box of snickers and washed them down with orange juice. It was a fight to stomach them but they aided recovery.

Good luck and get well soon.
Just to echo this, some friends of mine had a really bad reaction to anti-malaria medication.
Took it before a trip to South Africa and they were all over the place for a week.
Worth it, of course, but they had some really rough symptoms for a while and got quite worried.
 
Here we go again. We say these bastards won't change our way of life. Next minute we stop the election a few days before it happens. I hope this doesn't sound trivial but shouldn't the election be something like football with extra time? In other words if you lose five days of campaigning for whatever reason, then the date of the election has to be postponed by that amount of time. It's been said before but these murderers want us to come down hard on a large part of society for the actions of a tiny minority, and that is probably exactly what they will get. Meanwhile Mrs Strong and Stable will win the election partly as being portrayed as the best person to "lead" us against the current threat having presided over massive cuts to the police budget.
 
Very sorry to hear about your terrible experiences. God that must have been so frightening.

Many thanks for your kind words. I suspect I might know more in a few days.

Rob

I have had a chat with my friend the doctor and he seems to think that because of the rashes, it's more likely to be bacterial than viral. I forwarded your list of symptoms.

Possibly Thyphoid or something similar. However, once you get the results of the blood tests the doctor should be able to tell which. Your white blood cell count will be elavated to fight of whatever you have, but they need to be a different shape to fight a virus rather than to fight a bacterial infection. He gave me all the technical jargon which went a little over my head, then explained simply, one is granular shape, the other non granular. By looking at the shape of the elevated white blood cells, they should be able to narrow it down a bit.

Hope you are feeling better

DD
 
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Some reports that Cheick Tiote collapsed at training with his Chinese club and has died.
Currently unconfirmed, but would be very sad if true.

Edit: Demba Ba has posted this on Twitter, so it seems like it's true, unfortunately:
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Edit 2: Moved this from Rival Watch after Croydon posted.
 
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