Big important Welsh game tonight

Dai, take your accusations to the banter thread, uncalled for.

 

I watched an interesting programme today on catch up TV, not sure when it went out, The Fall And Rise Of Swansea City!
What a fabulous chronicle of the ups and downs, and what an achievement. Hope wa can emulate them!

 

Gerrards best years are behind him but he's still top class. Jonjo has a long long way to go before he should be mentioned never mind compared to one of the best midfielders in a generation and a guy rated as one of the best ever to play for England's 2nd biggest club.

 

Come on boys, the Swans played well tonight. Can't fault them.... Well done.

 

Thanks Gransha - but the Cardiff posters have been very gracious on the whole and Taff in particular has been his usual objective self - am always disappointed with the grief he is given when posting on our board; have always found him to be fair and intelligent with his posts!

 

I think Gerrard is way past his best, and needs to hang his boots up, he's looking like his legs will go any minute, as for Shelvey, I wasn't too keen on him coming at first, but he does add some needed bite to our midfield, which has never been the same since we lost Bodde to injury, that said Shelvey needs to up his consistency, and decision making, if he can do that then he will be a great player for us, but he's rough on the edges in places, though I'm sure we'll knock him into shape at training, after all he'll be practising passing and keep ball to death!................

 

Swansea were very impressive.

Shelvey clearly man of the match though Michu and Routledge were both outstanding.

Malmo were cr@p and our team of last season would have been too good for them.

But you can only beat whats in front of you and that was a glorified training session.

I rate Shelvey. But anyone thinking hes better than Gerrard just hasnt a clue about football.

I predicted Swansea would go down. They wont. On that display they should be favourites for the league thats starts from 8th down.

The only negative on that performance is Bony looked nowhere near a £12m player. In fact I thought the Malmo striker looked far better. Then again he scores 2 and its early. He just looked slow and not that great technically. Never seen or heard of him before. Maybe hes just not fully fit. Took his 1st goal well though.

 

He did look a bit of a lump, but he's obviously got an eye for goal and Michu will enjoy having him to play off on that evidence.

 

Swansea looked sharp last night and they should start the PL season with a bang given they were targetting these qualifiers. We're probably 2-3 weeks behind them (and a season or two as well).

Agree on the Bony comment Hilts. He was the one player who looked off the pace. Routledge, Dyer and Michu looked good. Saying that, Bony's goal was a poachers goal. He was in sniffing for the scraps and he found one in the rebound from Michu's shot.

 

I thought the guy who came on for the last 15/20 minutes, Pozuleo, looked very good. Okay Malmo were well beaten by then but Pozuelo looked totally comfortable on the ball and took his goal well. Could be one to watch out for this season.

 

JH: "was on the parks tonight watching local park football was on the parks tonight watching local park football "

Kids playing were they?

 

For me Bony is the new and better Scotland, many said that Scotland was a lump, couldn't run, but he couldn't half score, was a poacher, could hit from distance. We don't need a striker to be able to pass, we have always needed a striker to have a proper strikers instinct, something we have dearly missed since Scotland followed Martinez to Wigan.

Since then we have always had strikers who will work for the cause, but never could score enough. I think Bony is the real answer for us, To me he looks a much better player than Scotland, but in a similar mold.

 

kangaroo he was outside the liberty selling the big issue....don't listen to him mate...We all know that JH tells porkies and what he does for a living..

 

Decent footballing comment on what was intended to be a wum thread.

Agree with you to a large extent, but the Prem teams provide a different challenge than Malmo as you will already know.

Scotland was never a success outside the Championship - he'd found his level. Bony may prove a star for you at £13M (?), but he could bomb as well.

Very well played last night - you certainly looked sharp as a team even if Bony didn't.

 

I thought Bony was okay and took his headed goal very well. I could see what he wanted to do and thought the keeper would get it but the header was perfectly positioned.

His addition to their side takes pressute off Michu as he doesn't have to play the lone front man role. Michu can hang back a little and strike from deeper. He reminds me very much of Berbatov in his couple of years at Spurs, looks a bit languid but when he sights goal he becomes explosive. A very good player

 

I think Scotland finding his level is a bit harsh, for me the type of striker that Scotland was suited our way of play, as I believe Bony will, but they for me are not strikers that could just fit any team and I think that is why Scotland struggled at Wigan. Maybe he would have struggled in the Prem with us too, but I always felt he may have been better off with us than Wigan.

When he went to Wigan, Martinez had just joined, asking him to play in a different role whilst he wanted to change how Wigan played, with team mates that were not used to the system Martinez wanted to play. Adding all of that together meant that Scotland was never going to really take off there. Not with his age anyway. Was a bit too late for such a drastic change.

 

Well it seemed that Scotland was a bit of a side show at Ipswich last year anyway. Maybe he just didn't fit in with McCarthy's ideas or maybe he'd peaked with you in the Champ.

As far as Bony is concerned, his record stands for itself in Holland - all he has to do is transfer that to the Premier league and he'll see you OK. The comment about Scotland was because you mentioned him in your post - I wasn't having a go at him, just think if Bony is being compared to him as similar (albeit better) he could find life harder this season.

Like I said, a decent fooballing comment on a wum thread - it nice to have it that way around for a change.

 

lol im keeping quiet, cant be the first and second jack to get banned on here

Oh I know you weren't having a go sparks, just thought it a bit unfair to say due to his change of club, and all that was going on there at the time

 

Yes KJ , i think the big clue was "youth" but then again its you innit ..........

May i suggest before or mods do that if you have no constructive input just dont message ......;O)

 

John if the mods were on this thread it should have been wum binned on posting.

Everyone knows it's a VERY thinny veiled dig at Swanseas match, as Sparks says it's been turned into a decent thread by both sides posters and that whatever any one says is progress for where this board was a week ago.

Can't really blame KJ for his pathetic response and you certainly can't take the moral high ground on it imo.