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'Big Chris'

Discussion in 'Watford' started by MKhorns2105, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Al the Hornet

    Al the Hornet Well-Known Member

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    He needs the ball to be whipped in from the dead ball line, so it is coming at him rather than him trying to get power from flick ons etc IMO. We need him to succeed for our season to kick on, I cannot see us getting someone in who is going to get us the goals that DG scored last season. The future is bright the future is MS, keep the faith everyone:)
     
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  2. Hornette_TID

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    <applause>
     
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  3. Steveterrysbandaid

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    Trevor senior was the worst forward I've ever seen at watford, Ci can't be as bad as that , is he ?
     
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  4. AL4-Hornet

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    The thing that frustrates me with Iwelumo is that in the air he doesn't go towards the ball. He almost waits for it to hit his head. This lets his marker to come in front of him every time and win the header. It is very easy to defend against.
     
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  5. Elixir69

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    Welcome Steve Terry, CI has started disastrously. As supporters we are looking for something to admire and other than his strutting CI has shown so little it is shocking.

    I'm not sure what the "he is injured" bleat achieves other than doubt in the methods. Dyche may have removed the doubt from CI, but he has piled the doubt on himself.

    Timing is everything and Dyche has a huge test at Coventry.
     
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  6. SuffolkHorn

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    Did you ever see Jamie Moralee?
     
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  7. Steveterrysbandaid

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    Thanks elixir69, I've always questioned why managers buy un proven 30 + players , sd must obviously realize that dg boots were big boots to fill so to go for a 30 + year old is something I don't understand . Now does sd swallow his pride and drop him ? Tomorrow will be very interesting to say the least,
    Oh I did see Jm but Trev was worse, his goal at Coventry in the cup was his only high point and that just hit him and went in
     
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  8. Elixir69

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    Tomorrow's game has come up very quickly because we have plumetted to the bottom end of the table. IMO Coventry are "there for the taking" and I so want us to take points when we should. We cannot expect points against W Ham, Birmingham, Reading and Forest so we need wins against Coventry and Barnsley.

    The last couple of seasons have proved that if you can get the points total ticking along, then the performances and confidence will fall into place. But the opposite applies, successive defeats will hit us hard.

    SD cannot depend on Iwelumo, so needs to look at alternatives. And there are League Cup game(s) coming up so working with a "squad" of players can be looked at in those other games.
     
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  9. Markthehorn

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    Interesting Bas has said there is more money to get a new striker in...do you think Dyche has had a word or two and said we need more fire power.
     
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  10. Norwayhornet

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    Hope so Mark ,we defo need one and soon!
     
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  11. oldfrenchhorn

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    The real problem for Mr. B is failure to stay in the Championship. That would blow everything out of the water finacially. He has no real option but to make sure that money is available to get the players in.

    I wonder if he is taking a budget holiday? ;)
     
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  12. Hornette_TID

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  13. Roger68

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    Iwelumo has been very poor in both the games I have seen. Every move that goes through him seems to break down. He is not convincing or effective when jumping, heading or passing. His main tactic seems to be to try a chest knock- down when the ball is played to him , which usually concedes possession.Is this how someone plays when they are not "match fit"? How will he be different when he IS "match fit"? It must be demoralising for Deeney to be left out in favour of an "unfit" player. Is that good man management? Why not use the Cup games to get Iwelumo "match fit"? How many games will it take? It is worrying when the fans cheer ironically when your main striker makes a header , and cheer for real when he is taken off.

    I thought we would struggle to get 3 points from the first 5 games, and I still have that opinion--but now I think we will be lucky to get 3 points from the following 5 games too. You might say we were "unlucky" to lose against Derby , and losing to WH was " predictable", but what teams do you realistically expect us to be favourites to beat , home or away, with our current squad? You may say that to make forecasts after 3 games is foolish but I really and truly expect us to be in the bottom 6 all season .

    It is also disappointing that the youngsters on the verge of breakthrough last season , such as Hodson,Thompson, Bennett, Wichelow, Mingoa have been relegated beyond the bench, and will not be continuing their development if this continues. Is this a new philosophy from Dyche? I would prefer to see us struggle while developing our younger players,(players with a point to prove) rather than struggle with a team of journeymen, who are playing for wages. Obviously we needed some experience, but the players we have brought in are not inspiring, so far--maybe Forsyth has potential.

    All too soon to tell of course, and it could be the mood will feel different in a couple of months time. Let us hope so. I don't like feeling negative.
     
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  14. gdb11572

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    Bloody well said
    Dyche should never have been named manger
     
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  15. Norwayhornet

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    I think we could do with the likes of Whichelow and Thompson being in the squad as they have pace and can play in various positions. but then I suspect Dyche wanted a more physical side which is a good idea in theory but need those players to be fit and on form.

    Feel the likes of Yeates and Dickinson can do a job for us and Forsyth isn't that old himself...but its true we must not discard the younger players.

    Sordell has easily been our brighest player this season.

    Let hope we can repeat the first half in each game (not sure about Burnley though?) then results should come otherwise it will be a long season.

    Nice nice if the defence didn't let in soft goals as that really seems to deflate the whole team.
     
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  17. oldfrenchhorn

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    Your up late tonight. Would you like to come up with something constructive and give us the wisdom of your thoughts on who we should have appointed manager, who we should have signed, and where we could find a pot of gold? It would be far more interesting than your currents criticisms.
     
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  18. Hornette_TID

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    i think it's true that last season we didn't get any reserve games. This season the younger kids are playing against other reserve teams, game time, though not first team. It's better, i think, for them to build there strength this way, and to get match 'savvy'...and then to bring them onto the first team bench. Yes, last season they were excited and had something to play for, but they weren't ready, and it showed in the second half of our season. Perhaps now we can improve them, get them ready...and then let them progress in the proper way...when they're ready for the task.
     
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  19. Roger68

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    Hornette--actually this season there are no reserve games--the Academy have games but only for 18 year olds and below, which excludes most of the players who were breaking through last season. Unless they go out on loan, I see this current situation as a backward step for the youngsters we were excited about last season.

    Incidentally I was not suggesting that Dyche " should not have been named manager"----I was in favour of his speedy appointment and continuity SHOULD be an advantage----.
     
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  20. gdb11572

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    What had Dyche done for me to say yes what a great appointment.
    He is a Colin Lee
     
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