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Bertrand and England

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Lambertissier, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Lambertissier

    Lambertissier Well-Known Member

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    Admittedly Bertrand hasn't been at his best for us, at the end of last season and the start of this one, but it still baffles me as to why he isn't in the England set-up? He was a regular for Southgate leading up to the world Cup and was in great form, but then he didn't get picked to go to Russia and now can't get in the squad, even when Shaw and Rose are out injured. I know Southgate is looking to the future and I applaud him for that but Bertrand is no dinosaur at 29 years old. Have they had some kind of fall out?
     
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    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I think Southgate is using younger players as much as possible, Unless there is a huge gap in ability. And why not? It is a good idea.

    He should have gone to Russia instead of Rose though
     
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    I'm regularly impressed by Chilwell. I'm not surprised he's been given a chance.
     
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    Lambertissier Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, Rose was unfit and a waste in Russia - Bertie should have gone. I'm certainly not bitter and saying he should be in the squad now, but the rise and demise was so quick and unexplained. Normally it's reported on that it's due to lack of form/ fallout with the manager/ poor attitude, but he was in and out as quick as a fiddler's elbow with no media attention which just seems odd
     
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    Paddy Podped Well-Known Member

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    In general, an 'older' player (I'm including Bertrand in that for now) would probably prefer only to be called up to England matches (excluding world cup etc.) if he is likely to play.

    To be called up to be a sub to the third choice left back - probably rather have a fortnight off?
     
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    I think that Bertrand has been a disappointment during the last season and a half. I can't see how he merited selection. I would have to say that I have felt he has under-performed for us for a long while. After Puel left, I thought he would have been snapped up. Just get the impression that he was one of the best players under Puel but he is a shadow of his former self. He is one play I feel would probably benefit from a move away from Saint to freshen things up from his perspective.
     
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