Benefit Cap

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Well considering theres already a cap on how much housing benefit you can receive in Scotland I don't think the "Glaswegian Junkies" will be too bothered.
 
I'd prefer that my taxes were spent on keeping a family housed and fed than giving an MP a pay rise
 
I'm not sure how this works but the bloke next to me doesn't work and as he drives his alcoholic brother around every now and then he reckons he's in line to claim his brother's mobility allowance. He's going to buy himself a new car with the dosh.

Nice work if you can get it, eh?
 
Benefits cap in principle a good idea ...

However, they have been set far too high!
 
Rebecca is a Sunday school teacher in Haringey, who may be affected by the cap when transitional support runs out.She told the BBC she would not want to move away.
"I think moving out from my community....my community will be missing me. If they move me out, I will start from zero," she said.
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This is the thing that confuses - a Sunday School teacher sounds a bit middle class, weren't benefits designed as a safety net for people who are on their ear, rather than an income subsidy for the working to middle classes?

It's not that I am against redistributing money, it's just that we have a finite pool of money to redistribute and there are failing schools and failing hospitals all over the place. Genuine poverty is when you are uneducated and sick, I'd much rather my children live in a smaller house a bit out of the way than have bad health and a poor education.
 
MalteseMick said:
This is the thing that confuses - a Sunday School teacher sounds a bit middle class, weren't benefits designed as a safety net for people who are on their ear, rather than an income subsidy for the working to middle classes?

It's not that I am against redistributing money, it's just that we have a finite pool of money to redistribute and there are failing schools and failing hospitals all over the place. Genuine poverty is when you are uneducated and sick, I'd much rather my children live in a smaller house a bit out of the way than have bad health and a poor education.
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Your children will never have to live in a smaller house so your point is ****ing pointless.
 
MD 20/20 said:
Too high <doh>

Nae **** gets that much cash on the dole Pud. Not unless they stay in London as has already been said.
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If they're in London it's only for rent, and you need ****loads of proof of where you live (saying this from experience :bandit:)

No one on benefits gets more than their JSA to survive on, and it's not more than £80 (and that's in London).

Now try getting a job + surviving on £80 a week. As Mick you keep on claiming people should just move, how do you expect people to uproot and move on that much income?

If any of you ****s had been on benefits in the last few years you'd understand it's not a laugh, it's barely enough to survive.
 
MalteseMick said:
This is the thing that confuses - a Sunday School teacher sounds a bit middle class, weren't benefits designed as a safety net for people who are on their ear, rather than an income subsidy for the working to middle classes?

It's not that I am against redistributing money, it's just that we have a finite pool of money to redistribute and there are failing schools and failing hospitals all over the place. Genuine poverty is when you are uneducated and sick, I'd much rather my children live in a smaller house a bit out of the way than have bad health and a poor education.
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Sunday school teacher may sound very middle class but most (certainly in the Catholic church anyway) tend to do it on a voluntary basis and they are most definitely not all middle class. Harringey also happens to have some of the most deprved areas in London.
 
MalteseMick said:
No cap on disability allowance.
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Well no one gets more than £80 a week if you're single and over 25 with no kids.

Housing benefits is different but the cap in London is pretty low, also you'd only be looking at a room in a shared house for that price.

There are a lot of unemployed graduates at the mo, are you suggesting we send them all out to the countryside and to ****loads like NI or the Isle of Man where rent is cheap because they won't cost as much in rent?
 
MalteseMick said:
This is the thing that confuses - a Sunday School teacher sounds a bit middle class, weren't benefits designed as a safety net for people who are on their ear, rather than an income subsidy for the working to middle classes?

It's not that I am against redistributing money, it's just that we have a finite pool of money to redistribute and there are failing schools and failing hospitals all over the place. Genuine poverty is when you are uneducated and sick, I'd much rather my children live in a smaller house a bit out of the way than have bad health and a poor education.
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That was Labour's fault Mick. Tax Credits were a bribe to the electorate.
 
That Gaydo Fox tweeted that Labour planned to make benefits a human right if they had got into power

Excellent idea
 
MD 20/20 said:
Too high

Nae **** gets that much cash on the dole Pud. Not unless they stay in London as has already been said.
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They say the cap will save £110m a year .. so some ****s get £350/£500 if yer a couple.
 
pud said:
They say the cap will save £110m a year .. so some ****s get £350/£500 if yer a couple.
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I wonder how much of that saving will be spent on dreaming up wonderful new fangled systems to prevent people claiming more than they should etc. Wouldn't be too surprised if this either ends up being cost neutral or actually costs the tax payer more <doh>
 
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