Beefy's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

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Also in South Dakota the jury decide on the death penalty which will not help him. A brutal murder of a 2 year old child. Yeah, that's going to go down well with the jury.
 
How can you give that much power to a jury? It's a bunch of nobodies off the street for ****'s sake.
 
Schad said:
Yeah, but you're probably again looking at second-degree murder, because it'd be rather difficult to prove premeditation.
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Yeah, he'll probably plead guilty to 2nd degree murder. The DA's office will charge him with first degree murder and threaten him with the death penalty and he'll cop a plea to avoid it. He'll still get 25 to 40 years.
 
tomw19 said:
Yeah, he'll probably plead guilty to 2nd degree murder. The DA's office will charge with with first degree murder and threaten him with the death penalty and he'll cop a plea to avoid it. He'll still get 25 to 40 years.
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They may threaten him with it. If there's much chance of it going to court, there's little chance that they'll charge him with first-degree murder unless there's a whole lot of evidence supporting premeditation, because it's very unlikely that they'd actually get the death penalty. Despite being rather loose with its application compared to other countries, only ~100 people are actually sentenced to death each year out of thousands of murder cases.
 
According to US reports, Patterson faces 40 years in prison with what he's currently charged with (aggravated battery of an infant and aggravated assault). So that's going to rise.
 
Joe said:
How can you give that much power to a jury? It's a bunch of nobodies off the street for ****'s sake.
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Sadly, given that many of their judges are elected, trial by judge isn't a hell of a lot better in many instances. They have to be Tough On Crime to win reelection, and if that means harsh convictions on spurious evidence, so be it.
 
Schad said:
Sadly, given that many of their judges are elected,
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That one really is stupid, particularly given all the advertising time that they can buy up. Whoever has the richest backers wins.
 
According to USA Today, Patterson has prior domestic abuse convictions, one involving a child. What mother would let that animal near her child for ****s sake?
 
Qwerty said:
That one really is stupid, particularly given all the advertising time that they can buy up. Whoever has the richest backers wins.
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http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/buying-time-wisconsin-judicial-election-2013

Edit: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caperton_v._A.T._Massey_Coal_Co.

While the case was awaiting hearing in the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals, A.T. Massey's Chief Executive Officer, Don Blankenship, became involved in the election campaign pitting incumbent Supreme Court Justice Warren McGraw against Charleston lawyer Brent Benjamin. Blankenship created a non-profit corporation called "And for the Sake of the Kids" through which he contributed over $3 million in Benjamin's behalf. This amounted to more than the total amount spent by all other Benjamin supporters and Benjamin's own campaign committee,[2] Much of the money went to an advertising campaign aimed at questioning McGraw's impartiality.[3] McGraw further damaged his campaign during a speech at the 2004 United Mine Workers of America's Labor Day rally in Racine, West Virginia in which he alleged that Republican operatives were following him "looking for ugly".[3] The speech, sometimes referred to as the "Scream at Racine" or the "Scream from Racine" was featured in several campaign advertisements sponsored by the West Virginia Republican Party and may have played a large role in McGraw's defeat in November 2004.[3][4]
In 2007, when the case came before the West Virginia Supreme Court, Caperton petitioned for Justice Benjamin to recuse himself because of Blankenship's contributions during the campaign. Benjamin declined and was ultimately part of the 3 to 2 majority that overturned the $50 million verdict.
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Schad said:
Sadly, given that many of their judges are elected, trial by judge isn't a hell of a lot better in many instances. They have to be Tough On Crime to win reelection, and if that means harsh convictions on spurious evidence, so be it.
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It doesn't look good for democracy, does it.
 
tomw19 said:
According to USA Today, Patterson has prior domestic abuse convictions, one involving a child. What mother would let that animal near her child for ****s sake?
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Hate to have to say it but some women are just plain stupid. They are so afraid of being alone that they shack up with any scumbag. He could knock seven bells out of them and they'd say 'But he loves me really.' Often they place the monster above their own child...the opposite of the first law of motherhood.
 
Schad said:
http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/buying-time-wisconsin-judicial-election-2013

Edit: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caperton_v._A.T._Massey_Coal_Co.
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Yeah I knew about the coal one, John Grisham wrote a book loosely based on it. I realise no one reads his stuff to become better informed but the point was there.

Was half way through reading the Wisconsin story in the NY Times. Grrrrrrrrr

Edit: oh yeah, debt ceiling deadline happening soon. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
TheSecondStain said:
Forgot to say. Make a note of their name - The Temperance Movement. They're going to be big, or I'm no judge of decent rock music.
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Fabulous, I love that TSS, thanks for posting. Good, honest, high energy rock. I feel like going out and buying the CD and going for a long drive with that playing at high volume.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Forgot to say. Make a note of their name - The Temperance Movement. They're going to be big, or I'm no judge of decent rock music.
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Heh, while derivations of Southern blues rock are a good sell, that's more straight lifted than derived. Curious what the rest of the album sounds like, though.
 
MASSIVE cyclone about to hit India. 400,000 people evacuated, with wind speed predicted to be 167mph when it hits land. In short, all hell will break loose.
 
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