Beadling

[marcusblackcat]

Oh ! This wasn't Coleman's idea either , Back room staff, what are you on ?
You lot want to wake up, the Chelsea lad is atrocious, Colemans lad.

How was Clark-Salter "Coleman's lad"? How do you know that he wasn't just one that was available so we got him in (as we needed bodies)? or do you know for certain (as you seem to claim to) that he was "the one" that Coleman wanted?

Coleman wanted Chris Martin - far better than any other striking option that we were linked with - he was "Coleman's lad" but we couldn't get him - or was that Coleman's fault as well that we ended up with Fletcher (again one that was available at the time)?

Who would you have signed in the window - who was available and willing to come here that was better than we got in? You seem to think that there were loads of players available (and your answer every time is "Coleman should be able to find them" - so in other words you don't know and therefore can't answer the question.

Did Coleman send Beadling out on loan? If so, how do you know that he did - are you on first name terms with Chris or are you just making assumptions based on your dislike of the manager (it seems like the latter to me) ? I will not pass judgement on something that I have no idea about.

 

[red&white wanderer]

He should have been in the team this season instead of sending him out on loan and bringing in another young Centre back that never plays from another team ffs.

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  After a string of impressive performances, Tom Beadling is turning heads in Scotland - will he still be a Mackem come next season?
  By Tom Atkinson@Tommyakki Mar 21, 2018, 6:08am GMTSHARE
  
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  Tom Beadling has been in good form since securing a loan move away from the club. Playing in five games and scoring one goal for Dunfermline Athletic, the vocal defender has been impressive after being given a regular run of senior football in which to prove his worth.
  
  The Pars are very much in contention for a play-off position thanks in part to Beadling’s impressive displays, and that hasn’t gone unnoticed.
  
  A source close to the player has told Roker Report that Beadling’s impressive displays north of the border are beginning to attract attention, both from his current club and SPL sides keen to see if they could potentially lure the young defender-cum-midfielder away from the north east of England.
  
  Subsequently, Beadling now finds himself in an interesting situation whereby over the course of the coming months he may well have to choose between potential SPL or League One football come season’s end.
  
  
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  Should the club offer Beadling a deal to stay on Wearside?
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  Beadling’s deal with the club runs out at the end of this season, so could the club lose the talented youngster for next to nothing once thay time rolls around?
  
  It’s likely that the club will be keen to offer Beadling some kind of new deal considering the fact that the vast majority of our squad will be decimated in the summer, but will Beadling want to remain at a club that have done little to help advance his development?
  
  It has been noted on this site before that the club’s attempts at developing young talent have been lacking to say the least in recent years, and having never been afforded the chance to prove his worth in a side desperately struggling at the foot of the Championship table, Beadling would be well within his rights in looking for guaranteed senior football elsewhere.
  
  
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  Will he stay or will he go?
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  With League One football looking ever more likely for Sunderland next season, keeping young prospects like Tom Beadling on the club’s books should be something we look to prioritize.
  
  Beadling might not be a star in the making, but he has proved himself adept in a physically imposing league, and would certainly be a solid player for a club in desperate need of defensive reinforcements come the close of the current campaign.
  
  That being said, it’s understandable as to why Beadling might look elsewhere in search of regular first-team football. Have any of the defensive acquisitions made by the club this season been better than he? Probably not, if truth be told. In turn, why should Beadling come back to a club that have done little in the way of offering him a route into first-team football?
  
  Hopefully, young Tom returns to the club an improved player capable of helping us in the next campaign - we will likely need him ahead of another tricky season come next year.
  
  

This totally vindicates why we are in a mess - who is making such ridiculous decisions to jettison highly rated academy players. Beadling was never given a real opportunity and we opted for another inexperienced player on loan who has no affiliation with our club. Atrocious and what about Ledger - I am ashamed of the club atm but I'm not throwing my dummy out and deserting them. We will recover ... I've been saying &thinking this since the 60's

 

[marcusblackcat]

This totally vindicates why we are in a mess - who is making such ridiculous decisions to jettison highly rated academy players. Beadling was never given a real opportunity and we opted for another inexperienced player on loan who has no affiliation with our club. Atrocious and what about Ledger - I am ashamed of the club atm but I'm not throwing my dummy out and deserting them. We will recover ... I've been saying &thinking this since the 60's

See I always reserve judgement on these academy players as the U21/u23 leagues are as bad or worse quality than the 4th division! Ryan Noble scored for fun at reserve level and couldn't get goals for Gateshead iirc. Since they did away with the "reserve" league as a league and turned it into an u21/u23 league the quality of players and development of players at that level has become rather poor. Players used to develop much better when playing against a second string of players. They just don't any more.

Beadling may be a good player - but he's doing well in a tin pot league in scotland (the scottish premier league is worse than the league we're in - and Beadling is playing a division below that!)

Good on him he's doing well at that level - but I reckon our current defenders would boss that league!! As bad as they are so I'm certainly not going to lay blame at anyone's door for allowing a player to join a Scottish second tier club! I know little to nothinig about Beadling and whether he's any good so I certainly won't base an opinion on a couple of articles stating how good he's doing in that league

 

[Teessidemackem]

See I always reserve judgement on these academy players as the U21/u23 leagues are as bad or worse quality than the 4th division! Ryan Noble scored for fun at reserve level and couldn't get goals for Gateshead iirc. Since they did away with the "reserve" league as a league and turned it into an u21/u23 league the quality of players and development of players at that level has become rather poor. Players used to develop much better when playing against a second string of players. They just don't any more.

Beadling may be a good player - but he's doing well in a tin pot league in scotland (the scottish premier league is worse than the league we're in - and Beadling is playing a division below that!)

Good on him he's doing well at that level - but I reckon our current defenders would boss that league!! As bad as they are so I'm certainly not going to lay blame at anyone's door for allowing a player to join a Scottish second tier club! I know little to nothinig about Beadling and whether he's any good so I certainly won't base an opinion on a couple of articles stating how good he's doing in that league

Beadling looks a cracking young player, ive seen him play a few times. He made Rodwell look even worse than he actually is when i last saw them play togeather for the U23s in defence.
Hes featured quite alot for the first team in pre season friendlys and hes always impressed. I really dont know why we havent given him at least a start on the bench for our first team yet?

 

[clockstander]

Right back at the start of the season I suggested that I would give Rodwell ( then coming back from injury) a run in the U23's along side Beadling to see if they could develop a partnership that could take over the first team duties if required. This was only tried the once, too little and too late to be of any consequence as Rodwell seemed to have spit out his dummy by then. Even so, Beadling got top ratings that game, but strangely has never got a sniff at first team level. To loan him out under the circumstances makes no sense, and who knows, but if they had been given a chance it could have been the makings of both of them, instead of the no-win situation that the club currently finds itself in on both counts.

 

[clockstander]

Beadling may be a good player - but he's doing well in a tin pot league in scotland (the scottish premier league is worse than the league we're in - and Beadling is playing a division below that!)

Just remind me about how well we are doing in a tin-pot league

 

[marcusblackcat]

Beadling may be a good player - but he's doing well in a tin pot league in scotland (the scottish premier league is worse than the league we're in - and Beadling is playing a division below that!)

Just remind me about how well we are doing in a tin-pot league

Mate compared to the scottish championship, the English championship is like the a diamond encrusted, golden pot!

 

[DAPARKERSAFC]

Only recently discovered that Brentford let Alfie Mawson leave for free. How they'll regret that now. He'll move for £15-20m in the summer from Swansea.

Two examples of us throwing young players on the scrap heap

John Egan currently Brentford captain
Conor Houirane one of Villas best players this season after excelling at Barnsley.

I thought it'd be a given we'd retain Beadling and Ledger heading into league one and look to bring in two experienced centre backs to help them along

 

[Teessidemackem]

Only recently discovered that Brentford let Alfie Mawson leave for free. How they'll regret that now. He'll move for £15-20m in the summer from Swansea.

Two examples of us throwing young players on the scrap heap

John Egan currently Brentford captain
Conor Houirane one of Villas best players this season after excelling at Barnsley.

I thought it'd be a given we'd retain Beadling and Ledger heading into league one and look to bring in two experienced centre backs to help them along

Ledgers gone. He signed permanantly for a team in Norway last week. He was on loan there last season and he made a big impression

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43384770

 

[clockstander]

There has to be something going on here, even our lot cant keep making these "mistakes" .

 

[Teessidemackem]

Marc Wilson played most of his career as a holding midfielder for Stoke. Ive often wondered why we havent played him there yet?

 

[Nacho]

Marc Wilson played most of his career as a holding midfielder for Stoke. Ive often wondered why we havent played him there yet?

We did in one game and we were solid until half time at which point he swapped him for Cattermole and it all went to ****.

 

[Teessidemackem]

We did in one game and we were solid until half time at which point he swapped him for Cattermole and it all went to ****.

Its frustrating isnt it. The things that are wrong are obvious but Coleman seems to be on a different planet.

 

[clockstander]

We did in one game and we were solid until half time at which point he swapped him for Cattermole and it all went to ****.

I remember that game as well, and thought that he must be injured, but I don't remember any subsequent explanation, although he always seems to be injured, like so many. I had great hopes for Gibson coming back and playing in there, but that looks unlikely, and probably too late now, in more ways than one.

 

[red&white wanderer]

See I always reserve judgement on these academy players as the U21/u23 leagues are as bad or worse quality than the 4th division! Ryan Noble scored for fun at reserve level and couldn't get goals for Gateshead iirc. Since they did away with the "reserve" league as a league and turned it into an u21/u23 league the quality of players and development of players at that level has become rather poor. Players used to develop much better when playing against a second string of players. They just don't any more.

Beadling may be a good player - but he's doing well in a tin pot league in scotland (the scottish premier league is worse than the league we're in - and Beadling is playing a division below that!)

Good on him he's doing well at that level - but I reckon our current defenders would boss that league!! As bad as they are so I'm certainly not going to lay blame at anyone's door for allowing a player to join a Scottish second tier club! I know little to nothinig about Beadling and whether he's any good so I certainly won't base an opinion on a couple of articles stating how good he's doing in that league

You're right. I am just frustrated that he is not being given a real opportunity when we are so appalling in the CH position.

 

[The Little General]

How was Clark-Salter "Coleman's lad"? How do you know that he wasn't just one that was available so we got him in (as we needed bodies)? or do you know for certain (as you seem to claim to) that he was "the one" that Coleman wanted?

Coleman wanted Chris Martin - far better than any other striking option that we were linked with - he was "Coleman's lad" but we couldn't get him - or was that Coleman's fault as well that we ended up with Fletcher (again one that was available at the time)?

Who would you have signed in the window - who was available and willing to come here that was better than we got in? You seem to think that there were loads of players available (and your answer every time is "Coleman should be able to find them" - so in other words you don't know and therefore can't answer the question.

Did Coleman send Beadling out on loan? If so, how do you know that he did - are you on first name terms with Chris or are you just making assumptions based on your dislike of the manager (it seems like the latter to me) ? I will not pass judgement on something that I have no idea about.

Who do you think sent Beadling out ? The Tea lady ? All this financial constraint rhubarb excusing Coleman doesn't wash, all managers where we are have constraints on who they can sign, it goes with the job. He signed rubbish.
Your Cattermole Love In seems to have transferred to Coleman these days.

 

[The Little General]

Its frustrating isnt it. The things that are wrong are obvious but Coleman seems to be on a different planet.

I agree totally with you Tees.

 

[Teessidemackem]

I agree totally with you Tees.

Thought you would mate .

 

[The Little General]

Tees, I like the bloke, just don't think he has improved us and fail to understand this misplaced ' no one could have done better crap' gone backwards if anything. I look at his record at Fulham and Coventry and see he failed. His narrow minded 'my system works approach.' It did with Bale up top., not with us. You pick a system which suits the players at hand. McMannaman, McGeady in a 442 . Maja and Asoro up top. This league is shi t, go down fighting.

 

[Vincemac]

Ohhhhhh dear