BBC telling lies

"The poll, conducted by Israel's Dialog polling group, found that 59 per cent out of the 503 people questioned"

 

Have you ever worked with statistics in any form before dev? I think you will find a sample size of 503 is more than enough to be considered robust. It should be enough to provide accuracy of the general sample population to at least 2.5% either way to 99% confidence*

*disclaimer-this rough calculation was done off the top of my head based on previous use of normal distribution. I have neither the tables, the calculator nor motivation handy to actually do this right now but if I do il be sure to get back to you

 

A poll of 500 or so people from a population of 15m or thereabouts, is to all and intents and purposes worthless. For starters we do not know if opinions were canvassed or volunteered. Who knows how the survey was put together and the data extrapolated, likewise who knows the purpose of the poll or the people behind it and their potential motives.

I tend to ignore polls by and large because in all my years I have never been asked to take part in a poll, neither on the street or at home. Anyone would think they have a database of people who they know like taking part in polls and that's why they don't ask me.

 

Well I have taken part in carrying out many surveys, polls whatever. Databases are usually the territory of statutory agencies or govt departmental research. This would most likely take the form of a stratified random street sample. But as I said, regardless of the population size, 503 is generally a robust sample

 

Proof if ever it was needed.

 

The recent move by Abbas for upgraded UN status is interesting since the elected Hamas government of Gaza didn't agree to it

So start updating maps to include the countries North-East Palestine and South-West Palestine

 

It's interesting in so much that it goes against every agreement ever signed between the Palestinian Authority and Israel.

The PA was supposed to be legally committed to bi-lateral negotiations with Israel to resolve the issues still remaining after the Oslo Accords.

 

Yeah but it's well known by now that the Pals never keep their word

 

That's me appeased.

 

Beelin

 

Israel has authorised the construction of 3,000 more housing units in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank, according to Israeli officials.

It is also speeding up the processing of 1,000 planning permissions.

The Palestinian Authority has said it will not return to peace talks without a freeze in settlement building.

The decision comes a day after a vote at the UN General Assembly upgraded the Palestinians' status at the UN to that of non-member observer state.

According to the Israeli Haaretz newspaper, some of the new units will be between Jerusalem and the settlement of Maale Adumim.

Plans to build settlements in the area, known as E1, are strongly opposed by Palestinians, who say the development will cut the West Bank in two, preventing the creation of a contiguous Palestinian state.

The move is a first indication of Israeli anger, less than 24 hours after the vote on Palestinian status was held at the UN, the BBC's Kevin Connolly in Jerusalem reports.

The Palestinians may well have been expecting this - or something like it - but it is a reminder that the gulf between the two on the settlement issue remains huge, our correspondent adds.

Earlier this month, a paper by the Israeli foreign ministry described the Palestinians' pushing for the vote as "crossing a red line that will require the harshest Israeli response"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20552391

 

just nuke the whole of the middle east and be done with it.

 

wipe out the israelis and make the world a less complicated place scum.

 

took me a while to get that

 

Jordan sez Sieg Heil

 

not quite. no-one quite flounts human rights violations nowadays like the israelis. the nazi's would be oh so proud