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BBC Roundup - Brundle

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Mclarwum, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    He's describing two possible scenarios.
     
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  2. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I think Lewis is the closest living thing to Senna, for better and for worse. He will certainly put in a stellar performance, if not in Valencia, then at Silverstone, but the BBC want to push their ratings and their journalists need to keep the hype going.

    Plus, many people want to read this stuff, just as we're still discussing it :)
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    well, McLaren havn't produced a great race car since 2008, but they are PRODUCING one as we speak, I still stick to my pre-season stance that come the middle of the season the McLaren will be the best car, the only thing I think may work in Vettels favour is Button and Hamilton will take points off each other, whereas RBR will probably start to impose team orders as soon as it looks like McLaren have the edge.
     
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    I have to admit I was a little disappointed when I saw it was about Hamilton. Earlier in the season when someone said on Benson's blog that he'd missed something major out, he said that Hughes was going into detail about it on Tuesday and that was why he left out, leading me to believe that the three of them talked about what each of them would discuss so they had all bases covered. But Brundle and Hughes' pieces both centred on Hamilton, as did Ted's GP from the pitlane thing.
     
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  5. Mclarwum

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    Don't think they will have to, Vettel is leaps and bounds ahead of Webber this season. Interestingly though, if Webber got to grips with the tyres and starting pushing Vettel and he was made to accept team orders - would that have an effect on him staying at RBR next season?
     
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  6. Max Whiplash

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    I agree. I look forward to Hughes's blog but this latest piece told me nothing other than that the BBC is playing 'showbiz' for all it's worth.
     
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  7. genjigonzales

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    Yeah I agree - I said "no I don't think so" because you asked if you were being too cynical.
     
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  8. Max Whiplash

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    I wonder if it's only the tyres that are Webber's problem. Last year, Horner said that RBR would be built around Vettel in future, presumably that includes this year's car: isn't it possible that the car just doesn't suit Mark as it does Seb?
     
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  9. Max Whiplash

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    <doh> Right! In my haste to post, I didn't realise that until afterwards :)
     
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  10. Masanari

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    :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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  11. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    This post has reduced Mifune to ash
     
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  12. Max Whiplash

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    Lewis has nothing to do with Senna, until he can prove he can drive a car without electronic aids and rely on instinct to guide him round a track he is nothing.
    And he is more Ali-G than Senna, ranting at TV cameras instead of showing his passion on track.
     
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  14. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Bruno Senna possibly...
    Nah seriously Lewis Hamilton is Lewis Hamilton not Ayrton Senna. He doesn't need all this "oh he's just like Senna" ****. He is a great driver as Himself. He doesn't need these rubish comparisons with different drivers.
     
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  15. Delete Me

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    Tbh the media pressure on Lewis must be getting to him now.

    Vettel dismisses any likeness to Schumacher every chance he gets.
     
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  16. Max Whiplash

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    I grew up watching Senna and Lewis reminds me of him, as I said, for the good, the bad and all the criticism he receives. If Lewis is candid and humble enough to continue to cite him as his hero, I applaud him for it. If Vettel has now decided to deny his own hero, well, to me it seems fickle, a bit arrogant and suggests an anxiety of influence. Then again, it's clever in a media sense as it discourages negative comparisons but I prefer Lewis's heart-on-sleeve attitude myself.
     
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  17. Masanari

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    Hamilton may drive aggressive like Senna but for me that is where the similarities stop, Senna was a better qualifier, better in the wet, and Hamilton is nowhere in a million miles approaching Senna's intelligence and charisma which I think was a major reason that made Senna, Senna.

    Hamilton should stop trying to compare himself against Senna and try to carve out his own legacy instead of trying to emulate Senna's.
     
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  18. Max Whiplash

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    I don't think he is trying to emulate Senna's legacy but now, with the film out, the media have seized on an opportunity to recreate that "dirty and dangerous" thing that dogged Senna throughout his career.

    I agree with you that he doesn't have Senna's charisma, Vettel has more charisma in my opinion. As for intelligence, or intellect as Ron called it in the 'Senna' film, I refer you to Lewis's interview during the F1 forum in Shanghai, describing his tactics. I suspect that this is the intellect that Dennis saw in both drivers.
     
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  19. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Senna was a racing driver and everything was bent in that direction, Hamilton is a celebrity, and everything bends in that direction. That's why he isn't as good as Senna, he may have the raw driving skill, but everything else is just a pale shadow. I would be unsurprised if he ended his career with 1 WDC t his name, when you choose pop stars managers who know absolutely **** all about F1 questions must be asked about what you really want.
     
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  20. Max Whiplash

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    Lewis is definitely a racing driver first and foremost, Senna was also a huge celebrity, especially in Brazil, naturally enough. At this stage in his career, Lewis is still a pretender to greatness, Senna-esque or otherwise. We need to see that "raw driving skill" develop over the years.
     
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