BBC reports we have Giroud

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He doesn't look anything like Chamakh to me. He is far more mobile, quicker and technical. He doesn't look afraid to shoot outside the box either. He looks like a proper centre forward.
 
ALTBOULI said:
Not to be a downer here but am I the only one who is a little underwhelmed by Giroud? I'm sure he has great potential but from what I have seen of him, he looks very similar to Chamackh and does not seem the most mobile of strikers.
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Maybe a little but even at his best Chamakh never achieved the goal scoring heights that Giroud managed last season. Looking at his goal scoring stats on Wiki he's almost got a goal every other game which is really positive. Big man, technically gifted, in the French squad... all signs are positive.

Oh, and don't bother mentioning Cygan - he wasn't technically gifted!
 
John Jensen's Shooting Boots said:
Maybe a little but even at his best Chamakh never achieved the goal scoring heights that Giroud managed last season. Looking at his goal scoring stats on Wiki he's almost got a goal every other game which is really positive. Big man, technically gifted, in the French squad... all signs are positive.

Oh, and don't bother mentioning Cygan - he wasn't technically gifted!
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I hope you are right <ok> to be honest the best news for me would be to keep RVP, any additional attacking force is a bonus in my opinion. I was really pleased when we sign Pod, now if we could improve our creative aspects in midfield and have an extra utility defender then I would be very pleased with our transfers.
 
there was much more chance of henry being a flop than there is of giroud. mainly becuase giroud has already proved his prowess, whilst henry was pretty poor before he came to us. people need to judge after the first few months at the earliest.
 
Ammaar said:
Was on ja606 earlier and couldn't believe the ridiculous amount of people writing Giroud off before he's even set foot in the PL and comparing him to Chamakh.

First of all - he's nothing like Chamakh. Chamakh had never scored more than 15 goals in the French league and he was as prolific as Heskey. Naturally I thought that had changed in the first 4 months of his Arsenal career where he had a brilliant start - he was brilliant in the air, linked up well with midfield and seemed quite agile on both feet. His height also gave an advantage on attacking and defending set pieces. However, flattering to deceive doesn't do him justice. Giroud's style of play is nothing like Chamakh and just because he and Chamakh came from the same league, doesn't mean Giroud will turn out that way. Koscielny and Clichy came from the French league - I suppose they were flops too? As were Pires and Wiltord, no?

Secondly - Giroud was the top goalscorer for Montpellier last season. Considering we've needed a player that is a good goal poacher and will add dynamism to our game, I don't see why he's bad in that respect, either. We create an awful lot of chances and we seem to spurn most of them. Giroud can change that.

Look at this YouTube comp to see the level of quality of goals he scored and the level of technical ability required to score them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob8xTYXmMko

YouTube may not be an accurate representation of a player's quality, but if you look at the goals he's scored, it requires a high level of vision, awareness of what's around him, pure skill and technique. As I said, he's also a real goalpoacher as well and will capitalise on any fumbles or loose balls in the penalty box, if that video is anything to go by.

Thirdly - Whilst I can understand people being apprehensive about Giroud coming to Arsenal, the excuses people have spouted has been just ludicrous. This is the worst excuse in the world:

''He might be a flop''

And how will we know if he will or won't unless we give him a chance? Every player a club buys is a risk and no-one can say whether they will take it by storm or not adapt until they get regular game time in the Premier League. There is always a possiblity of every player failing - but give them time, and you will see what they can do.

And besides, if you've done your homework on that player, then you should be able to tell whether they are good enough or not. The Park buy was for commercial reasons in my opinion and as for Chamakh, well, we got him for free, so we can't really complain about that.

Giroud is a different kettle of fish and I am almost certain he will do extremely well for us. But writing him off already is so incredibly stupid and I'm sick to death of people saying ''he's just like Chamakh, he will flop'' - give him a ****ing opportunity to prove himself.

Rant over.
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Agree with all that. The Chamakh comparison is purely based on the fact that they are both tall and both played in French league, which is just ludicrous.
 
Clueless is all you can see about anyone who thinks Chamakh is similar to Giroud. Giroud looks like he can do it all I think as a target man he would be perfect because he has pace and power to hold up the ball where RVP lacks that power to be a target man - if indeed we need to adopt it as a plan B. I hope so, because this tippy tappy football isn't winning us anything.
 
Ammaar said:
Was on ja606 earlier and couldn't believe the ridiculous amount of people writing Giroud off before he's even set foot in the PL and comparing him to Chamakh.

''He might be a flop''

And how will we know if he will or won't unless we give him a chance? Every player a club buys is a risk and no-one can say whether they will take it by storm or not adapt until they get regular game time in the Premier League. There is always a possiblity of every player failing - but give them time, and you will see what they can do.

And besides, if you've done your homework on that player, then you should be able to tell whether they are good enough or not. The Park buy was for commercial reasons in my opinion and as for Chamakh, well, we got him for free, so we can't really complain about that.

Giroud is a different kettle of fish and I am almost certain he will do extremely well for us. But writing him off already is so incredibly stupid and I'm sick to death of people saying ''he's just like Chamakh, he will flop'' - give him a ****ing opportunity to prove himself.

Rant over.
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I've read similar things in some message boards, I just laugh.

I think anyone who knocks Giroud or Podolski are afraid of the unknown, they know that when Arsenal do well they do really well and the records our 2 signings have have probably rattled a few people. I mean who wants to see us with a stronger squad, possibly dominating again?
 
PNEawf said:
He is surely better than anything we have on the bench, but £12m?
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Thats my issue, 12 million. He's be good as backup, but i don't see him carrying the team, RvP style. I know we have Poldi now, but he's only going to score about 10 goals from the wing.
 
Kyle? said:
Thats my issue, 12 million. He's be good as backup, but i don't see him carrying the team, RvP style. I know we have Poldi now, but he's only going to score about 10 goals from the wing.
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12 million for the TOP SCORER in Ligue 1 is a steal. It would certainly be better than relying on a kid without a work permit.
Why are you so worked up about the price? You all complain that Wenger doesn't spend money and now that he does he's spending too much? God forbid he try to improve the squad.
 
TheOXOCube said:
12 million for the TOP SCORER in Ligue 1 is a steal. It would certainly be better than relying on a kid without a work permit.
Why are you so worked up about the price? You all complain that Wenger doesn't spend money and now that he does he's spending too much? God forbid he try to improve the squad.
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Would you be happy if you'd bought me for 12 million, and all i'd do is sit on your sofa and raid your fridge. Thats what Giroud would be like, sat down on the bench.
 
Kyle? said:
Would you be happy if you'd bought me for 12 million, and all i'd do is sit on your sofa and raid your fridge. Thats what Giroud would be like, sat down on the bench.
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Have you been the top scorer in a top European League? Do you not understand the concept of squad depth and a quality bench?
 
TheOXOCube said:
Have you been the top scorer in a top European League? Do you not understand the concept of squad depth and a quality bench?
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Yes, i understand squad depth, but paying 12 million for backup/reserve is insanity. RvP started nearly every game last season, Giroud is going to be a very bored man on the bench. At this rate, he will be the one sat on your sofa, raiding your fridge.
 
Yeah, and what's the likelihood that RVP will go through another season without getting any injuries? This summer he has not had a proper break, so him playing another 40 plus games next season will not be easy for him.
 
Kyle? said:
Yes, i understand squad depth, but paying 12 million for backup/reserve is insanity. RvP started nearly every game last season, Giroud is going to be a very bored man on the bench. At this rate, he will be the one sat on your sofa, raiding your fridge.
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I think the fact we paid 12 million shows that we do intend on giving him some game time. RVP went above and beyond last year and played a lot as we had no real other option. Now, if RVP's tired, has a slight injury or is simply out of form next year, Giroud will play. I see him doing a lot more than merely "sitting on the bench".
 
Kyle? said:
Yes, i understand squad depth, but paying 12 million for backup/reserve is insanity. RvP started nearly every game last season, Giroud is going to be a very bored man on the bench. At this rate, he will be the one sat on your sofa, raiding your fridge.
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If you really think RvP will play every game then you are mental. Everyone but the idiots thinks Giroud will be quality. I'm done arguing with you.
So just keep on putting your hopes on a f******* kid who got 5 goals in the same league where Giroud was top scorer. And I'll be waiting for more quality summer signings.
 
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