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BBC - Liverpool make bid for Lallana

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  1. Sotonist

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    they also had a manager and chairman in situ.

    lallana can thank his friend pochettino for maximising his benefit in chasing the tottenham job for delaying our appointment of a new manager and addressing any transfer situations.

    the CEO/Chairman situation is a joke tbh there must be a chairman of the football club board... I guess that is still KL
     
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  2. Puck

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    I think my girlfriend had a specific list of companies in her contract that she wasn't allowed to work for for 6 months after leaving Mothercare. They were all baby-related shops as far as I remember. I think you'd have to prove there were legitimate reasons for such a clause. With Mothercare it was presumably that you might have knowledge of soon-to-be-released products. Not sure how it could work in football but who knows?

    Well of course. I've said "if this is true" several times. It may not be true.

    It does however fit with the general message coming from the players. Let's not forget these are players we've seen on the pitch and in interviews for years and who most people have regularly described as sensible, level-headed and down to earth. Only suddenly people have stopped thinking the players are sensible, level-headed and down to earth. People now think they're all prima donnas who were pampered by Cortese and are bitching because they don't get daily cuddles from Nicola any more. I think we have to ask ourselves whether it's more likely that this group of players have all changed so much in such a short time or whether it's more likely that they have legitimate grievances.
     
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    Who's to say the other players aren't perfect to? The board may have tried to be softly softly with Lallana but he or his agent may not have liked what they heard. You can't just take one side(players) of a story to be 100% right.
     
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    Perhaps Lallana should of thought about this when he was busy agreeing personal terms with Liverpool weeks ago
     
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  5. Beef

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    I'm not going on about the players going on about ambition. We had that at the end of last season as well. It just seems the players angling for a move etc blame the board before looking at themselves first.
     
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  6. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    I said not all that different. Not that they were exactly the same.

    Liverpool was not in CL but had a much better chance of qualifying than we do. And the salary implications were probably much smaller. And he still wants to leave again.
     
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  7. Sotonist

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    it'll be interesting to see if anyone can meet liverpool's valuation now, especially with CL money burning holes in their pocket.

    signed a new contract, no doubt to ensure his higher earnings over the next few years were covered, but probably lost his escape clause.
     
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  8. Beef

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    How to handle a transfer/ move: Lambert and (Shaw so far)
    Not how to handle a transfer/ move: Lallana and his agent.


    Also Blackmore said about players moaning about how hard it is to talk to the board. How do we know how many players said this? We don't. It could easily be the players wanting a move etc that get knocked backed that are complaining.
     
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  9. Sotonist

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    jonathan barnett is a seasoned pro at this and handled the bale transfer.

    is lallana the weak link?
     
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  10. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    We all want the board to take a firm stand against Liverpool.

    Can't see how you can do that and not be firm against Lallana as well. If you want to not be pushed around the message has to be clear to EVERYONE that players leave when you decide they leave. Otherwise, what's the point? If you are soft with the players don't you think the agents will know and exploit that?

    I just can't figure how this works:

    *ring* "Hello, Southampton Football club." "Yeah, it's Liverpool calling. We'd like to buy Lallana for 20m." "HAHAHAHA! Don't call back."
    *ring* "Hello, SFC." "Yeah, it's Adam Lallana. I'd like to go to Liverpool for 20m." "Well, by all means let's talk about that possibility."
     
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    Well I'd say the ambition stuff and lack of communication has probably played at least some part in Lallana's desire to leave. I'm not saying Lallana's in the right because there's obviously fault on both sides but the board really shouldn't be ignoring his calls (if they have).
     
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    I can only think that Lallana is taking Liverpools threats of going elsewhere seriously and is starting to panic a bit.
     
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    I think his mind was made up way before all this lack of communication stuff started up. He wanted to go way before the awards evening.
     
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    It could be, but then you have to assume that several long-time servants of the club have removed their disguises to reveal that they've been money-hungry traitors all along.
     
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    Nope just unhappy they aren't getting what they want, so they complain.
     
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    But without question these players have been subject to transfer bids from teams above our stature before, and we got absolutely none of this. Seems spurious to me that they've been content team players for years, only to all rise up in unison and cite the same problem in the pursuit of various individual goals.
     
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    I wouldn't say they were traitors. More just career-advancement seekers, like most people. Or actually probably a lot more goal-oriented and determined than most people, otherwise they wouldn't have made it.

    Maybe Lallana sees this as the chance of a lifetime. He stayed with the club all these years waiting and working towards this exact opportunity. And now that he's so close, he's going to pull out all the stops to make it happen.

    We view these guys who have played with us in League One as being "loyal." Quite possibly, they've seen it this whole time as the start of a long road to reach their own personal goals. The fact that they've put in so much sweat and worked so hard to pull themselves up from humble beginnings may just make them want to leave all the more now that they see their chance.
     
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    All rise up in unison? We don't know this do we? Blackmore hasn't said how many players have complained to him. He is all to happy to take said players word for it and when questioned more he backs off and claims he is getting abuse and logs off. We don't know if it's 1 or 2 or 3 players or more that are complaining. (we in fact know very little apart from Lallana's(or his agents) bitching. You seem ok to judge the board on hear say of a guy that doesn't even say how many players are involved and back down when questioned more about what he has tweeted backs off.Yet there are always two sides to the story.
     
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    We had a half-dozen players calling out the board through the media before the season even ended to make known their ambitions. We have Lallana, and apparently we have an article centered around Fonte's discontent dropping within a day. We have Blackmore, a guy whose job relies upon his access to the club, and who is rather close to a number of players, stating that there's considerable frustration.

    There are two sides to the story, and perhaps at some point the board will tell theirs. But there's one very simple possibility here, and one very convoluted one.
     
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    As I said earlier we had the players going on about ambition at the end of last season as well. I don't mind players coming out and saying that. But to take Blackmore's word on it when we haven't heard from the other side is mad. He could being fed any kind of crap for all we know, but we don't.

    But I guess you have made your mind up already so there is no point trying to change it. I just try and see it from both sides instead of just the players.
     
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