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sb_73 said:
I'm sorry, I'm getting obsessed with this. Heard someone on the wireless this morning (I think it was Paula Radcliffe, but I may well be wrong) describe the booing of Gatlin as an 'oversimplified' response to the issues, implying that the public are too thick to understand cheating. Beg pardon? Man gets caught cheating twice, paying customers make their opinion of his continued presence in competition clear. It IS a simple issue.

This mealy mouthed attitude, from athletes, administrators and coaches, is a big factor in the failure of athletics to deal with doping in any convincing way. This tournament will be forever remembered for this crap.

I see Gatlin's dad has had a go at the British crowd and Steve Cram for the 'treatment' of his son. Bad ****ing luck mate.
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She shat herself during a race though and looks like a crow so best ignored.
 
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rangercol said:
I agree on Lewis and Radcliffe. I too like Johnson, Cram and foster, but I don't mind Logan. I think she does a reasonably good job in holding a live event together (not easy!).
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Agreed. It's quite a dry thing to commentate on for several hours and she does a decent job. Not bad to look at either.
 
rangercol said:
I agree on Lewis and Radcliffe. I too like Johnson, Cram and foster, but I don't mind Logan. I think she does a reasonably good job in holding a live event together (not easy!).
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Yeah, I may be a little harsh on Logan, it's not easy hosting several hours of live stuff. My wife claims she had some kind of barney with Johnson in a previous Championships, but can't remember what it was about. Any recollection?

I hope Bolt gets a gold in the 4x100 tonight, and GB get silver. Though I wouldn't be deeply upset if was the other way round.
 
West WindsR said:
I'd give Johnson-Thompson the most disappointing 30 seconds of her life.
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until she realises you have no insight into throwing the javelin?

Lots of young ladies who could be high fashion models in this. Not sure about McPherson of the US though.....
 
sb_73 said:
until she realises you have no insight into throwing the javelin?

Lots of young ladies who could be high fashion models in this. Not sure about McPherson of the US though.....
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I saw her. Looks like an absolute headcase.

Yeah there are some worldies but KJT has that whole moody Scouse vibe going on and she's used to disappointment.
 
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sb_73 said:
Yeah, I may be a little harsh on Logan, it's not easy hosting several hours of live stuff. My wife claims she had some kind of barney with Johnson in a previous Championships, but can't remember what it was about. Any recollection?

I hope Bolt gets a gold in the 4x100 tonight, and GB get silver. Though I wouldn't be deeply upset if was the other way round.
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I don't recall that, but they do seem a little "edgy" with each other.
Yeah, our sprinters could pull it off if they get the baton round. Wouldn't mind seeing Bolt get gold though.

Anyway, it's Mo-Time!! Come on Mo!!!!
 
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rangercol said:
I don't recall that, but they do seem a little "edgy" with each other.
Yeah, our sprinters could pull it off if they get the baton round. Wouldn't mind seeing Bolt get gold though.

Anyway, it's Mo-Time!! Come on Mo!!!!
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Ouch, didn't expect that. I think the other Brit ****ed it up for him with that burst of pace at 500m out. Oh well, competition is what we want.

Thanks Mo.

Now I'll walk the dog before Bolt time.
 
sb_73 said:
Ouch, didn't expect that. I think the other Brit ****ed it up for him with that burst of pace at 500m out. Oh well, competition is what we want.

Thanks Mo.

Now I'll walk the dog before Bolt time.
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Don't think you can blame Butchart, I thought he tried to break up the Ethiopians.

It was just not Farah's day. Still a great champion.
 
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sb_73 said:
Gatlin is undoubtedly a lightning rod for criticism, and of course the media, particularly ours, hypes it all up. But the twat has been caught twice, and has the gall to keep turning up and taking the money. The sport, the media, the athletes, the coaches/medics......who can you trust? It's such a shame, and I know it's nothing new, been going on for decades, but I'm probably naive in thinking that, such is the purity of the basic competition in most disciplines, that there should be something special about athletics.

I should add that I really rate Michael Johnson as a pundit, probably about the best there is for any sport I can think of.
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But it is 11 years ago since Gatlin was banned.
 
I've really enjoyed watching these World Championships - been some really good competitions, and a good atmosphere generated by most of the competitors, and the crowd usually.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
But it is 11 years ago since Gatlin was banned.
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Yep, and? He's a cheat, but the authorities are weak.
West WindsR said:
Indeed. Can't blame him for turning up and making a living. I blame the authorities who allow a two-time drug cheat to return.
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Agree, it's obvious that a 'one offence, life ban' rule would sort this nonsense out. If a mistake is made the athletes can sue.

Well done women's 4x100 team!
 
sb_73 said:
Yep, and? He's a cheat, but the authorities are weak.

Agree, it's obvious that a 'one offence, life ban' rule would sort this nonsense out. If a mistake is made the athletes can sue.

Well done women's 4x100 team!
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I think a two year ban for a first offence is fine. Anyone can make a mistake or be pressured into something. Twice and you're gone.
 
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I think a two year ban for a first offence is fine. Anyone can make a mistake or be pressured into something. Twice and you're gone.
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If you make the risk of any offence terminal it will focus the mind and character of athletes and coaches.

The people who are cheated are the paying public, because they don't see fair races. I have no sympathy for those who cheat them.
 
sb_73 said:
If you make the risk of any offence terminal it will focus the mind and character of athletes and coaches.

The people who are cheated are the paying public, because they don't see fair races. I have no sympathy for those who cheat them.
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I thought Gatlin's first offence was for an ADHD treatment that he'd been taking since he was a kid?
 
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