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Bahrain GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Big Ern, Apr 3, 2018.

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Who will end up with the smile on his face

Poll closed Apr 7, 2018.
  1. Lewis Hamilton

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  2. Seb Vettel

    50.0%
  3. Kimi Raikonnen

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  4. Danny Ricciardo

    7.1%
  5. Max Verstappen

    7.1%
  6. Valtieri Bottas

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  7. Romain Grosjean

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  8. Kevin Magnusson

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  9. Fernando Alonso

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  10. A N other

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  1. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    And Mclaren 3rd!! not bad for the 3rd worst team
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    If Alonso has good luck or gets a high position due to others retiring, rule 23.6.c means it gets disregarded and the drive is solely put down to him being the most complete driver, as was advised back in 2006 and still stands to this day......
     
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  3. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    3rd worst team.......?
     
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  4. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    in qualifying they were only better than sauber and williams
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

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    The Ferrari incident is a whole list of failures within the system. The original tyre wasn't even off the car, how could he have gotten a green light.

    As harsh as it sounds working in the pit lane is dangerous and accidents will happen, that can never be avoided. But Ferrari need to learn from their mistakes and quick.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

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    Overall they are not the 3rd worst team on the grid. They screwed up, or if they are the 3rd worst on the grid, everyone in that organisation should be fired after what they said last year about best chassis blah blah and then producing a dog of a car in 2018 that is well behind its similar engine rivals.

    The excuses at McLaren have to stop this year. They wanted out of Honda to move up the grid, so far they have only gained from others failures in the races, on speed alone they'd still barely be in the top 10, which is not far off where they were last year.

    Torro Rosso are making fools of them at the moment.
     
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  7. Number 1 Jasper

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    For their benefit and HAAS .
     
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    I know pitstops are part and parcel of what makes F1 a bit exciting, but is a 2 secs stop really worth the risk of a single mistake causing either an injury or retirement?

    As all teams seem to use the light system now, why not introduce a mandatory minimum 4 sec stop before the light turns green so these things don't happen and mechanics are under less pressure to do the superhuman?. Yes it's another way of sanitising the sport, but what is one more rule on top of all the others that have been brought in on safety grounds?

    And 4 secs is still pretty quick!
     
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    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Or, Indycar style system of just one person on each wheel? Slows the stop down and pit lane is also then less crowded so further reduces the chance of mechanics being run over.
     
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    Beat me to it .
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Mandatory 3 or 4 secs is preferable, enough time is lost in the pits causing conservative strategies as it is, then you'll have 1 guy getting knackered changing all 4 wheels, he'll have more chance of getting injured.
     
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  12. allsaintchris.

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    It's one person per tyre, so each pit stop will have at least 4 guys doing it if you included jack men etc

    In In Indy, each car is assigned its own pit crew, not sure whether the same guys do all the stops or if they swap around. Some races they can have 6 or 7 stops over 3+ hour races, so don't think tiredness should be an issue if F1 also went down that route if each team had to have two pit crews.
     
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    Considering two guys got pinged in the pits at Phoenix on Saturday, Indy might not be the best place to look for pit safety. :p
     
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    Was that under a yellow flag when every bugger comes in at the same time?

    Not seen the race yet, got it recorded to watch later in the week
     
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    I'm reminded of McLaren leading the championship after Australia 2014. Being decent operationally can only paper over the cracks for so long.
     
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  16. allsaintchris.

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    Realistically they should at least be splitting RBR and the works Renault on speed but are still definitely behind both.

    Strangely, Sainz seems to be off the pace at the moment and is looking more Palmer than Palmera at the moment.
     
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    As a further point, McLaren never got higher than 5th with Honda in their 3 seasons. TR have beaten that in two races!
     
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    I think it was if I remember. Rossi and Bordais both buggered up their entries in the same window.
     
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  19. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Does TR have the same engine as mclaren had the last 3 years?

    Also on Sainz. hasnt he been quite ill recently from a dodgy banana?
     
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  20. allsaintchris.

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    It's still a Honda, which McLaren could not get to work properly over 3 years (you'd assume they would have had a reasonable amount of input into it) and blamed it for all of their problems.

    They must have known something about its 2018 design to think that there was going to be no improvement, otherwise they would have stuck with it and seen the project through.
     
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