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and they were just the first 2.

I wonder if it has anything to do woth the new bonding technique reacting unexpectedly at high temps.
 
Miggins said:
and they were just the first 2.

I wonder if it has anything to do woth the new bonding technique reacting unexpectedly at high temps.
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Interesting that you say that:

Benson said:
Pirelli has introduced a new bonding process for this race, which they hoped would solve the problems they were having with delaminations earlier in the season. These failures are different - the tyres are collapsing rather than staying intact with the tread tearing off. This will almost certainly revive the debate about whether Pirelli can introduce a new construction that has so far been blocked by Ferrari, Lotus and Force India.

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The teams vetoed the new tyres for this weekend. Pirelli have the tyres ready. Maybe a solution can be found at the YDT
 
Didn't quite understand Mr Andersons analysis of the alleged sharp kerb issue, surely on a right hand bend the right hand side of the car would be over the kerb with the car sliding towards the left and the right hand tyres could contact the sharp kerb, with the left hand tyres still on the tarmac track, from what I saw it was the left hand tyres that exploded.
 
When you start altering the tyres all in the name of 'entertainment' as the FIA and Pirelli have sought then you risk controversies as what happened today. They've let down the teams and the drivers today and I really would rather prefer a return to the days of durable tyres where drivers could race to the maximum and not have to worry about sudden cliff drops in performance and now exploding tyres mid race. Another reason why in season testing should be brought back. Alongside the fact that innovative development is a key concept of the sport, development in terms of safety is also a key feature. As we all know f1 is an expensive sport and money can be saved but when it starts impeding on the safety aspect of the sport then it is simply not a 'saving' anyone would desire.
 
El_Bando said:
The teams vetoed the new tyres for this weekend. Pirelli have the tyres ready. Maybe a solution can be found at the YDT
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I'm guessing the young drivers' test isn't this week since the German GP is next weekend. They should be introduced immediately. F1 had a lucky escape today.

ErnieBecclestone said:
Didn't quite understand Mr Andersons analysis of the alleged sharp kerb issue, surely on a right hand bend the right hand side of the car would be over the kerb with the car sliding towards the left and the right hand tyres could contact the sharp kerb, with the left hand tyres still on the tarmac track, from what I saw it was the left hand tyres that exploded.
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It was a left hander. <ok>


On another tyre related note, Mercedes have won two of the three races since jumping into bed with Pirelli.
 
AbsolutelyGlorious said:
I'm guessing the young drivers' test isn't this week since the German GP is next weekend. They should be introduced immediately. F1 had a lucky escape today.



It was a left hander.


On another tyre related note, Mercedes have won two of the three races since jumping into bed with Pirelli.
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Ah Hah, yes thanks AG, have watched it again, got it this time.
 
Without in season testing or the availability of its dedicated test car, how can Pirelli ever get the chance to develop and test tyres properly?

It is a lottery now, but its a situation that the sport, not solely Pirelli, has brought upon itself.
 
Well, I must say so far, Pirelli have done a solid job with sorting the tyre issue, only last weekend there was much criticism and alarm concerning not fit for purpose unsafe tyres.

Now, within a few day the Italian tyre company have metamorphosised a disastrous situation into a seemingly bright and beautiful scenario where all is well and sins are forgiven, lets hope it stay's that way.

Lewis certainly has faith in his tyres, no one finger ****ing Vettel salute this morning, thank-you Pirelli and Lewis, keep up the good work. yah Hoo.
 
ErnieBecclestone said:
Well, I must say so far, Pirelli have done a solid job with sorting the tyre issue, only last weekend there was much criticism and alarm concerning not fit for purpose unsafe tyres.

Now, within a few day the Italian tyre company have metamorphosised a disastrous situation into a seemingly bright and beautiful scenario where all is well and sins are forgiven, lets hope it stay's that way.

Lewis certainly has faith in his tyres, no one finger ****ing Vettel salute this morning, thank-you Pirelli and Lewis, keep up the good work. yah Hoo.
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These tyres won't be used for the rest of the season though, they're being changed again.
 
Mercedes hopes to win F1 young driver test reprieve from FIA

Mercedes has enquired with the FIA about getting a day of running at the upcoming young driver test to try out Pirelli's new tyres.

The team was initially happy to accept that it would not run at Silverstone next week when race drivers join the test, as punishment for its secret Pirelli test earlier this year.

But AUTOSPORT has learned that Mercedes is awaiting a ruling from the FIA on whether or not there are grounds for it to get some running, so it can gather some data about the new tyres ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix.

One of its arguments is that with Pirelli's new 2012 construction tyres being introduced on safety grounds, it would not be wise for Mercedes to head in to a race weekend without having completed a single lap on them.
 
BrightLampShade said:
Mercedes hopes to win F1 young driver test reprieve from FIA

Mercedes has enquired with the FIA about getting a day of running at the upcoming young driver test to try out Pirelli's new tyres.

The team was initially happy to accept that it would not run at Silverstone next week when race drivers join the test, as punishment for its secret Pirelli test earlier this year.

But AUTOSPORT has learned that Mercedes is awaiting a ruling from the FIA on whether or not there are grounds for it to get some running, so it can gather some data about the new tyres ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix.

One of its arguments is that with Pirelli's new 2012 construction tyres being introduced on safety grounds, it would not be wise for Mercedes to head in to a race weekend without having completed a single lap on them.
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I hope it gets turned down. They have FP 1, 2 & 3 to do the mileage required. If they're worried about engine mileages, well that's tough really.

I think FIA will find it easier to say 'no' to them this time as the ban is already there. Reversing it, even partially, would show they have even less balls than everyone initially thought.
 
BrightLampShade said:
Mercedes hopes to win F1 young driver test reprieve from FIA

Mercedes has enquired with the FIA about getting a day of running at the upcoming young driver test to try out Pirelli's new tyres.

The team was initially happy to accept that it would not run at Silverstone next week when race drivers join the test, as punishment for its secret Pirelli test earlier this year.

But AUTOSPORT has learned that Mercedes is awaiting a ruling from the FIA on whether or not there are grounds for it to get some running, so it can gather some data about the new tyres ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix.

One of its arguments is that with Pirelli's new 2012 construction tyres being introduced on safety grounds, it would not be wise for Mercedes to head in to a race weekend without having completed a single lap on them.
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You have to be kidding me! If they get it then I have lost all the remaining hope Ive had in the FIA
 
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