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  1. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Well, quite. If the teachers of the adult generations had done a better job, society wouldn't be in the ****pan.
     
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    I blame teachers that preach that the safest and best time that there has ever been to be alive, and in one of the best places to be, is a ****pan.
     
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    We're all teachers really. It all comes down to what we teach. Responsibility is a key word here.
     
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  4. Steven Toast

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    Well, it's relative, isn't it?

    The safest and best time to be alive probably wouldn't be in the middle of a global pandemic that's killed over a million people and is on the rise again. Or at a time when you're judged on who you voted for instead of the kind of person you are. Or when despite numerous attempts and complaints, there's still no equality for people of colour or different genders. People are still attacked for being gay, being disabled, being different. There are riots across the pond that have raged for nearly two months. A fifth of the country live in poverty, food banks exist, we have one of the largest GINI index numbers in the world, so when you say safest and best, I haven't got a ****ing clue what you're talking about, because we're walking round with masks on, staying indoors and desperately trying not to catch a virulent disease.
     
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    You seem very happy being miserable, and a lot of your inaccurate 'facts' there explain why.
     
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    I'm not miserable in the slightest, swing and a miss. I'm just not in the habit of lying to children and telling them everything is brilliant when it quite clearly isn't. There's optimism, and then there's realism. We can tell them everything is going to be alright, which is fine, but telling them everything is alright is not fine, because it isn't.

    None of the facts are inaccurate to my knowledge, which bits do you have truck with?
     
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    I don't provide a free education, and judging by the amount of time you would need, you couldn't afford it.

    You'll just have to enjoy your sweet misery.
     
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    Good post. Especially the Americanisation of the western world. I’m sick of reading news from the USA as though it’s round the corner. We should judge our issues depended on how they are in our country and not the unstable lunatic land of the free across the pond.
     
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    Amazing when you watch TV to see the lack of general knowledge amongst people who have benefitted from this improved education though.
    Why do we have a shortage of engineers and other professions compared to other countries?. And a lack of people who have another language compared to other countries?Though we do have more with degrees in Media Studies, golf course management, the Spice Girls and similar useful subjects...
     
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  10. Steven Toast

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    Oh please, don't even try it.

    You want to live in a sugar coated world, go for it. How you see the world is your business, but I'd rather face harsh truth than fictional utopia and you are in no position to tell me your version of the world is better than mine.
     
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    I've already said I wouldn't bother, I don't need you permission.

    Stay happy in your misery. I pity the poor little sods you inflict it on.
     
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    It's a good point, I don't know why people don't take to more vocational courses these days, I'd like to know why because if there is a falling number, it needs addressing.

    That being said, the amount of people that use the terms "fake news" and "Lamestream media" suggests a few people should probably do media studies, as they haven't a clue how it actually works (a bit like the person who they parrot those terms from).
     
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    All went down hill when they stopped thrashing the kids with a bamboo cane.
     
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    Ok a question for the teachers, where do you stand on the idea of kids of all abilities being taught in the same class? In my day there were 3 or 4 classes of each subject the brightest in class one middle of the road in 2 and 3 and those who just didn't understand in level 4. Each class got taught to their own level of ability with an incentive to go up a level. From what i have heard now (from a teacher) everyone is lumped in together so a class of 30 may have 10 bright kids who get bored because it's too easy, 10 kids who don't understand so disrupt the class, and 10 who have to mumble along.
     
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    You must remember they are all special.
     
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    I’m not a teacher, but funnily enough my daughter’s senior school has just restarted for the autumn term and has redistributed all of the kids into streamed classes so they can stay together as much as possible and avoid them having to mix between differing classes / bubbles for Science, Maths and English. They mix bubbles, but much more socially distanced, for their GCSE options.

    I doubt it’s the only one so you might well find that your perceived state of play has now changed on the ground.
     
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    If the children aren't engaged, that's crap teaching. If that's the description you were given by the teacher, they maybe need to rethink how they're approaching their teaching.

    At my school we do a mastery approach, so all children are exposed to the most challenging stuff, even the SEND and the lower ability kids. It's a bit like differentiation through outcome. So say there were three tasks in a maths lesson, the lower kids might only answer one question, but if they can and they can tell me why, that's their version of mastery. The middle children might do two and the rest will do three and a couple of challenges, create their own problems etc.

    In a good or outstanding classroom, at no point should there be kids sat doing nothing and all children should be able to contribute to the lesson in their own way. That doesn't mean everything they say will be right, but it means that they are exposed to things they wouldn't be if they were in sets and we've found over the last three years that this has had a positive impact on our results.
     
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    i was given the cane, a rounders bat, a battledore bat, numerous rulers on my knuckles and the odd slap around the head - no problem
     
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    do they still do Maths and English, most can't add up or spell without a calculator or spell check
     
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    Spare the rod, spoil the child.
     
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