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Without trying to look even more stupid, can anyone enlighten me what Matth is talking about? I take it 'he's' is a reference to Moyes ???? But if that is the case when did SAF watch him???
what i'm trying to say is, Fergie didn't get involve with our training, he let the coaches do it.
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Ferguson traditionally did leave most of training to coaches Kidd, McClaren, etc but to say he never took sessions or got involved is incorrect.
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Thanks for correcting me, like you said, he did let the coaches do the training but he would talk to the players.
Congratulations to the manager, he won his first trophy as a United manager after the team won 2-0 against Wigan.
True but look at Moyes next time when they do training on MUTV, he seems more involved.
Yeah no doubt, but he is more hands on that SAF was. He's just different to SAF in that respect.
Eh? What does that mean? He touches the players more? I know physical contact bring people closer ...maybe he is on to a winner here
That's a fair comment, although it's also fair to point out that Pellegrini and Mourinho both have experience of pre season at much bigger clubs than City and Chelsea, and the issues with their squads were much easy to fix. The problem with Utd's squad is harder - more decent quality and proven players than City and Chelsea, but a lack of true world class players in the midfield. And signing world class midfielders is always harder than picking up a couple of good attackers and a utility CM to support the world class player who the team's is already build around.
And it's also fair to say that preseason is always more complicated and challenging for the title winners, particularly strong title winners, as they have to improve whilst not breaking a winning formula. City found that out last summer when they fumbled around failing to get any decent targets in to really strengthen the squad and lost out as a result last season. Ancelotti was probably the prime example of the problems - decisive in the market in 2009 when he had to turn also rans into winners, but he was all over the place in 2010 and had to spend (waste?) a small fortune on Torres in January just to try and rectify his poor summer spending choices. And trying to improve a winning team did for Mourinho in 2006, when he spent a small fortune on Shevchenko, Kalou, Mikel and Boulahrouz trying to make his title winners into CL winners, and ended up going backwards.
Even SAF wasn't all that great when the title was won and he needed to strengthen the winning side. He seemed to find it far easier to bring in the players to rebuild a side that had fallen short, like with Cantona in 92, Cole, Johnsen, Ole and the kids in 95, Stam and Yorke in 98, Rio in 02, Rooney in 04, Carrick in 06 and RVP in 12. But some of his worst transfer errors and problems came when trying to take a winning side to the next level - Silvestre and Taibi in 99, Barthez in 00, Veron in 01, Kleberson, Djemba, Dong and Bellion in 03, and Berbatov in 08. In fact, pretty much every single of SAF's flops or high profile signings that failed to live up to the hype were purchased in pre season after a title win, or title and CL win.
Just goes to show how much harder it is to retain a title than it is to win it.
He did, but that doesn't alter the fact that SAF's training sessions were very much him deciding what to do, the coaches deciding how to accomplish it, and SAF watching, commenting and refining the training as needed.
Moyes seems much more hand on in terms of deciding what to do and how to do it, with the coaches more there to advise than to actually run the majority of the season.
David Moyes lifts his first trophy for United and dedicates it to Sir Alex: “This is a trophy for Sir Alex, so if he is sitting at home and watching today, this is for you."
If Chelsea were to win the Super Cup will Jose Dedicate it to Raffa??????? WILL HE **** Jose will take all the credit
If Chelsea were to win the Super Cup will Jose Dedicate it to Raffa??????? WILL HE **** Jose will take all the credit
Plus City are in the fortunate position of being able to ask how much they have to pay the club and the player to make the move happen and then just make it so!
If Chelsea had won the Club World Cup I doubt Fatty would have dedicated it to RDM. But they didn't so it's moot I suppose.
He is available to the highest bidder. He will move if someone offered him a bigger contract so at the end of 4 years he is off to new pastures. I think after SAF I'd like a bit more continuity.
