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Ayre gives views about Dave Whelans big gob

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  1. MabonJack

    MabonJack New Member

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    The whole of football knew that Martinez had been offered the job first, once Martinez found out that you wanted a director of football to work with him he walked, rodgers was only interested when he he was told "you are the only one we want", well after martinez walking what else could they tell rodger. dont be naieve and think it was only rodgers in the frame because everybody knows thats bullshit, the only thing dave whelan has done is tell the truth, mind you whelan saying that Anfield is souless and has no heart can not have gone down to well either
     
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    Oh so you know that for a fact do you? So you're saying that Ayre is a liar?

    You are just a fool!
     
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    Whole world is as ignorant as you then sadly.
     
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    Where is that Director of Football you speak of..... <whistle>
     
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    Very good point Bluf.

    The position is defunct.
     
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  6. DirtyFrank

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    And Mabonjack; it's not LFC or Ayre backtracking on what they said. Whelan is now trying to state he was misinterpreted despite saying these things into a camera.

    So do I believe Ayre & LFC who kept respectfully quiet or Whelan who opened his gob quicker than a tart drops her knickers?

    Don't let Whelan or the printed press make a twat out of you just because it feels better. In fact if true it should make you feel worse. You lost your manager to a club who didn't even rate him top of the list.

    Lucky it's not true eh?:D
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Did the 'interview' get filmed or sound recorded?,If not do you have extra sensory perception?

    <laugh>
     
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  8. MabonJack

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    Dave
    Brendan rodgers was only interested if he was the only candidate, now what do you expect liverpool to say, because rodgers turned you down the first time because martinez was in the frame, those are rodgers's words when trying to justify leaving us, rodgers only changed his mind when they told him"brendan you are the only one we want" again rodgers's words not mine, you see rodgers was giving interviews to the local presss" an open letter to swans fans on why i went to liverpool" amonst many he gave, now if you are asking me is Ayre a liar Absolutely, and with all respect if you think he is telling the truth i would say you are being foolish,
     
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  10. MabonJack

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  11. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    And if Rodgers had gave them an ultimatum about a DOF when Martinez(in your opinion)was first choice do you believe a 2nd choice as manager would have got away with bullying FSG into his way of of thinking?

    Nope,they'd have laughed at him and given the job to their(in your opinion)first choice Martinez.
     
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  12. MabonJack

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    you will soon find out rodgers does a lot of that,beleive me
     
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  13. MabonJack

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    rodgers obviously beleived what he was told, are you telling me that martinez caught the wrong flight back from his holiday and ended up in florida by mistake, the only thing dave whelan did was scupper your approach for martinez, and Ayre is probably worried that he has told rodgers a porky or 2, so lets muddy the waters,


    rodgers would work under any scenario, 2 years ago he could not get an interview for jobcentre plus
     
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  14. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    No mate,what i'm saying is FSG stated they wanted to talk to Martinez(amongst others)before making a final decision,no doubt they paid Martinez's expenses in Miami.

    Whelan gave no proof of anything he said,has Martinez said he was first choice and offered the job?
     
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  15. MabonJack

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    Martinez would not say anything he is very professional like that, very interesting to note that rodgers only agreed to speak to liverpool once martinez had decided to stay with Wigan dont you think. personally i am not that bothered rodgers has gone, he was just part of a project that has been going on for 5 years, our style of play was already there before he arrived, so do not beleive he was totally responsible for us reaching the premiership he was not.
     
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  16. MabonJack

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    Whelan acheived what he set out to do,keep martinez which he did,its very simple
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    How about if Whelan said Martinez was "never offered the job"?,after all you believe every word he says.

    Whelan, though, has stressed that he never claimed Martinez had been offered the job.
    http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/153967.html

    <ok>
     
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  18. Foredeckdave

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    Rodgers is on record as saying that he did not turn is down, he just didn't want to be included in a beauty contest. When he was assured that we wanted to talk seriously to him, he grabbed the opportunity with both hands (with the approval of Swansea's Chairman). Liverpool have openly declared that they talked to and considered a number of people before talking to Rodgers. So far our versions tally.

    However, talking to people and offering a contract are two completely different things. If Liverpool say that they did not offer the job to anybodyelse then I do believe them. There is no mileage in them making such a statement if it were not true. You can believe Ayre is a liar - I can do nothing about that.

    The ONLY person who has said that Liverpool made an offer to anyone other than Rodgers is Whelan. Now Whelan had his own agenda to pursue but his contention has not been substantiated by anyone - least of all Matinez. Personally, I would not be prepared to say the Henry or Ayre was a liar without such substantiation. So forgive me for sticking to my earlier comments regarding your original post.
     
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  19. MabonJack

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    dave

    read my link again, rodgers told ITV Wales that he turned down the chance to speak to you because" of his respect for swansea city its fans and because of the life he was leading down here, those were his words not mine. he took the job when liverpool approached him a second time, once he realised martinez was staying at wigan
     
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  20. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    So martinez was first choice but when he said no DoF we said **** off then? And yet when BR said the same we said ok the jobs yours??

    It's a shame the whole thing seems to have left you a bit bitter as many Swans have been on this board the last week saying they are saddened but good luck to him and that they'll miss him.
     
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