There you go. Seems like he upset more than just his playing staff. And you are right. Frank, in spite of what he said will still be a legend at Chelsea. AVB on the other hand will go down in history as being a flop and a SPUD. Poor man.
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There you go. Seems like he upset more than just his playing staff. And you are right. Frank, in spite of what he said will still be a legend at Chelsea. AVB on the other hand will go down in history as being a flop and a SPUD. Poor man.
to call them players scum ?????? they play for chelsea not arsenal!! come on chelsea pensioner !!
Yeh calling them scum is a bit out of order. They have played for Chelsea after all. Even though players like Kalou and Bosingwa for example had mares from time to time, they still played for us and I'm grateful for it. Arsenal though are an exception!
I agree with Lampard and the media but the moment AVB decided to intertwine politics with football that's when his days were truly numbered. I disagree with Chelsea Pensioner though. The club did back him, for as long as they could but towards January/February his comments in the media made his position untenable. He publically called Roman out and when you do that there is only going to be one winner.
Also I thought his treatment of Alex and Anelka was rather disgusting
AVB's problem is (perhaps due to his age and naivety) is he didn't learn the most important lesson in any battle: You can't fight a battle on two fronts. AVB wanted to take on an institution as powerful as the media as well as taking on the senior players at the club as well as taking on senior figures at the club like Buck, Gourlay and Roman himself. So effectively not two battles but three.
Back to my first point if we had been putting our strongest team out every game and lost many including myself could have taken that. But when you start jeopardising the financial future of a club just to settle a score with two or three senior players that's when it becomes stupid. With City, Inter and United eliminated from the CL club officials knew we still had a chance if we could get past Napoli so they took a gamble, and won.
AVB was absolutely terrible with us. He couldn't handle the big names. So I don't see how he'll succeed at Spurs. Tottenham are about to lose their star player Modric as well.
Liverpool are poor, they finished 17 points off us last season and whilst they might improve they're a long way off where we were last season. Plus to use your logic(read: guessing) Rodgers will definitely be distracted by the Europa League so any improvements in the squad won't improve their league form as they'll be distracted. Rodgers might do well, who knows? Anyone reasonable can see that a new, inexperienced manager is a gamble and it's not unreasonable to expect Rodgers impact to take longer than a year to truly show. As a Chelsea fan I'm sure that might be difficult to understand managers don't tend to get a full year at yours.
I never said Newcastle will be poor, just that their squad is thin and there is yet to be indication that they will be remedying that so it's far too early to be expecting them to do be worse or better than last season.
Don't talk to me about wishful thinking and reality when you clearly don't know the difference yourself
Theres a big difference. Liverpool are used to playing in Europe, used to playing twice a week. Spurs players aren't and nor are Newcastles
If Liverpool are that poor why did you opt to put 11 me behind the ball against them? Why did they beat Chelsea thrice? (something you didn't manage once in 3 attempts).
Why did they beat City and United, plus Arsenal away?
Don't get me wrong Liverpool's squad has its limitations but football never has been about who has the better individuals. If Liverpool had Adebayor subsidised for them instead of Spurs I guarantee they'd have been at least 10 points better off. Not having Suarez for about 1/5 season didn't help as he was their only potent striker.
They had a rubbish manager and IMO that is as much the reason why they faltered as the limitations of their squad.
You are in cuckoo land if you think they will do as badly as last season.
As for sacking managers don't talk to me about sacking managers when you've sacked a manager after only 2 full months in charge recently. In fact in the PL era I think you'll find you've been through as much if not slightly less managers than we have.
I'm not writing off anyone for top 4 even thought at present I do not think Liverpool are good enough, but they won't be as far off as some think.
Unlike Spurs and even Arsenal, Liverpool are not dominated in games for 90 minutes which such regularity. Their game against you was a rare exception
Tottenham will compete in Europe next season for the 6th time in 7 seasons, I think thats a similar record to Liverpools in recent years, so not sure that Liverpools current squad are more experienced in Europe or more used to playing twice a week.
Not only this, but we have many more seasons of European football between the players in our squad than Liverpool do.
But Tottenham have only once used a full strength squad in that time (Champions League). Liverpool have always taken Europe seriously. The spine of the team Gerrard, Reina, Carragher, Bellamy, Suarez are used to playing twice a week I'm not sure the same could be said of Bale, Lennon, Walker etc
Where do you come up with this crap? Tottenham have only once NOT used a full strength squad in Europe, last year, before that we always took it very seriously. How can you group together Lennon and Walker? Walker only broke into the first team last year, Lennon has 5 seasons of European football under his belt, Bale has 4. Considering both Bale and Lennon are under the age of 25 that's a lot of experience, they are far more used to playing in Europe than they are to not playing in Europe
Carragher is no longer in the spine of Liverpool's team, he can't get in the side, and Bellamy is not a regular either due to injury problems, it is possible even to say the same for Gerrard, who has made less appearances in the last two seasons than he would normally expect to make in one season.
Not too much to shout about there,behind the likes of Braga and FC Twente.
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As with all things the catastrophe that was AVB at Chelsea mk II was a failing by all parties involved. Not one individual handled the situation well. Bearsonally I had sympathy with AVB because I was in a similar situation and met similar resistance.
I was 17 and I was asked to take over teaching the English Literature class who were aged 18-21 on a temporary basis. I showed up and the majority of the students told me they had research to do at the library set by the Professor and stood up to leave. I made them all sit down and translate Chaucer for me. Next lesson only four people showed up. Fortunately for me I had solid backing from the faculty and miscreants were severely reprimanded. It was though very much who the hell are you, how can someone younger than me with a cockney accent and obviously working class teach me anything.
I'm not suggesting this is what happened with AVB, he obviously didn't assess the situation properly and I guess he believed he had relationships from his previous stint as Chelsea that didn't really exist, but all my earlier career I had to teach or manage groups where I was the youngest and every time I met ageist snobbery (and a fair amount of class snobbery too). I am of course a frigging genius and AVB isn't. I think what AVB needed to go with his talent and brains was to have grown up on the street of Brixton and only go indoors for tea before playing outside again.
I was 17 and I was asked to take over teaching the English Literature class who were aged 18-21 on a temporary basis. I showed up and the majority of the students told me they had research to do at the library set by the Professor and stood up to leave. I made them all sit down and translate Chaucer for me. Next lesson only four people showed up. Fortunately for me I had solid backing from the faculty and miscreants were severely reprimanded. It was though very much who the hell are you, how can someone younger than me with a cockney accent and obviously working class teach me anything.
I'm not suggesting this is what happened with AVB, he obviously didn't assess the situation properly and I guess he believed he had relationships from his previous stint as Chelsea that didn't really exist, but all my earlier career I had to teach or manage groups where I was the youngest and every time I met ageist snobbery (and a fair amount of class snobbery too). I am of course a frigging genius and AVB isn't. I think what AVB needed to go with his talent and brains was to have grown up on the street of Brixton and only go indoors for tea before playing outside again.
He's small and looks like a rat, so it is entirely possible
first thing you should of done was say "come on every body, lets hit the pub"
