AVB! where do you stand?
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I suppose number 3 is the closest to the way I feel. We've done this before, but I am still dubious that he is the right man. However, until he has had a full squad to choose from, plus a Jan transfer window to hopefully strengthen in, I'll reserve final judgement. In other words, I'm prepared to be patient, but my patience has limits.
1. Inexperienced young manager, lost key squad members to injury, transfers and a retirement, yet he's done pretty well and has shown some adaptability.
Has some things to work on, but he's been far from a disaster.
Has some things to work on, but he's been far from a disaster.
can't see the poll as on phone app but ill add my option
- lacks style, obsessed with a formation that doesnt suit the squad, our football is mostly dour, i hate his interviews and not impressed with the manner he trys to close out games.
positives - he has got the best out of defoe, allows youth players a chance, you can see he is ambitious and wants to win trophies.
overall i feel lucky results have allowed certain aspects to be over looked but i accept there is a chance over time his methods will be a success yet right now i dont have much faith and dont hold much hope.
and SPURF, remember what we talked about its Andre Villas-Boas not AVB
- lacks style, obsessed with a formation that doesnt suit the squad, our football is mostly dour, i hate his interviews and not impressed with the manner he trys to close out games.
positives - he has got the best out of defoe, allows youth players a chance, you can see he is ambitious and wants to win trophies.
overall i feel lucky results have allowed certain aspects to be over looked but i accept there is a chance over time his methods will be a success yet right now i dont have much faith and dont hold much hope.
and SPURF, remember what we talked about its Andre Villas-Boas not AVB
can't see the poll as on phone app but ill add my option
- lacks style, obsessed with a formation that doesnt suit the squad, our football is mostly dour, i hate his interviews and not impressed with the manner he trys to close out games.
positives - he has got the best out of defoe, allows youth players a chance, you can see he is ambitious and wants to win trophies.
overall i feel lucky results have allowed certain aspects to be over looked but i accept there is a chance over time his methods will be a success yet right now i dont have much faith and dont hold much hope.
and SPURF, remember what we talked about its Andre Villas Boas not AVB
I thought we had agreed on Andy, Boss!
He is doing a good job considering 7 of last seasons key players have either been sold or retired, or been injured for most of this season. As well as not being given some of his preferred transfer targets by Levy and having to work with what he has, I think he is doing a decent job and barring key injuries could of had us sat in 3rd at the moment.
I think that we're all waiting for him to produce the sort of football that won him trophies in Portugal and we expect those sorts of results. We are waiting for the Spurs of old. I'm prepared to be patient but I'm not happy about dropping so many points late on. The Everton result gutted me and I don't know if he has the acumen to sort the problem out. We can only wait until we have a full squad fit.I'm the same as NSIS in that my patience has limits and if we lose to Swansea my patience will have gone.
Let's give him 80 mins a game!!!!...We know where we would be then.He's doing ok,at least he's using the squad.
I feel a mix of the first three options. Wrong man in wrong place? Well that sounds a bit damning. I think he was the wrong choice but having said that he has had to deal with a successful team being picked apart and lesser replacements brought in.
I am, however, not happy. Not with performances, not with use of players, not with the way the squad was reshaped over the summer to massively deplete our technical ability...
But having said THAT I think AVB could be doing much worse than he is. All reservations and problems aside we are still three points off of third. If Harry had had half the team sold out from under him and this many injuries I doubt he'd have done much better.
I am, however, not happy. Not with performances, not with use of players, not with the way the squad was reshaped over the summer to massively deplete our technical ability...
But having said THAT I think AVB could be doing much worse than he is. All reservations and problems aside we are still three points off of third. If Harry had had half the team sold out from under him and this many injuries I doubt he'd have done much better.
For sure.
But then again we finished fourth last term after being really quite crap for a large part of the season.
Funny what a knife-edge AVB is on results-wise. If all or just some of those late goals had not gone in we might be top of the table. But then if results had accurately reflected our performances for the most part then we'd be mid-table at best.
I said a few weeks ago that I was terrified of Bale getting injured cos without him I have that feeling of looking at the team and wondering where the hell the threat is going to come from. A feeling that I'm sure we were all-to-familiar with in the dark days pre-Jol and post-Venables. I'm just getting a sort of mid-table feeling whilst watching Spurs right now. Feels like I'm watching more in hope than expectation.
But, like I say - we're still three points off third (somehow).
Same here lenny with all you posted there. I'm not quite sure about the mid table comment although AVB was taking Chelsea down the table when he was sacked.
Very capable manager., but lacks experience in this league. Owing to his lack of experience he seems more accupied with 'not losing' rather then 'winning well'.
'To Dare is To Do'., Mr AVB and you needs to show more courage. If in doubt remember this:-
"It's no use just winning, we've got to win in style"....Bill Nicholson said this a long time ago. Which is why its so hard to come to terms with losing games in the manner in which we've been losing them this season.
Spurs fans are Spurs fans because we believe in the philosophy, tradition and style (of play) of this club. This is something Harry Rednapp understood without question and, in part, is why he was successfull both on the pitch and amongst us, the fans.
No more retreating with slender (one goal) leads and if we get beat lets get beat with our tails up proud not shafted with then down.
AVB needs more time.
Here endth my rant, for the day.
'To Dare is To Do'., Mr AVB and you needs to show more courage. If in doubt remember this:-
"It's no use just winning, we've got to win in style"....Bill Nicholson said this a long time ago. Which is why its so hard to come to terms with losing games in the manner in which we've been losing them this season.
Spurs fans are Spurs fans because we believe in the philosophy, tradition and style (of play) of this club. This is something Harry Rednapp understood without question and, in part, is why he was successfull both on the pitch and amongst us, the fans.
No more retreating with slender (one goal) leads and if we get beat lets get beat with our tails up proud not shafted with then down.
AVB needs more time.
Here endth my rant, for the day.
I've voted for: "is doing alright etc..."
Though I do feel that "alright" isn't exactly what I/ we should be looking for.
In my opinion, AVB has done his best for the squad but has not made any miracles nor has he done much what any other manager couldn't have done bar the away win at Utd. Bar that, we've dropped so many points against teams we should be beating and we've also looked so unfit in the last 10/15 minutes of games, which coincidently is also the periods where we seem to concede goals and therefore drop many points in.
So as I said, yes AVB has done OK with the squad he's had - better than I expected - but if AVB is this whizkid/ wonderkid of a manager, I'd have expected to have seen us pick up far more points than what we've had AND play a better style of football, regardless of the players he's had/ not had available. He's not done anything for me to see of him being able to take us to a new level but does look as though he'll be able to do a "decent" job and keep us in or around the top 4.
If I were to rate him out of 10, I'd give him a 6.5.
Though I do feel that "alright" isn't exactly what I/ we should be looking for.
In my opinion, AVB has done his best for the squad but has not made any miracles nor has he done much what any other manager couldn't have done bar the away win at Utd. Bar that, we've dropped so many points against teams we should be beating and we've also looked so unfit in the last 10/15 minutes of games, which coincidently is also the periods where we seem to concede goals and therefore drop many points in.
So as I said, yes AVB has done OK with the squad he's had - better than I expected - but if AVB is this whizkid/ wonderkid of a manager, I'd have expected to have seen us pick up far more points than what we've had AND play a better style of football, regardless of the players he's had/ not had available. He's not done anything for me to see of him being able to take us to a new level but does look as though he'll be able to do a "decent" job and keep us in or around the top 4.
If I were to rate him out of 10, I'd give him a 6.5.
eh? you'll need to elaborate on this TMT. - I'm struggling to think of much that's gone our way so far this season. I'm sure there's a few things, but it can't be much.A team full of injuries all season, conceding late goals continuously, and some perfectly ok goals that were disallowed. - pretty unlucky I'd say.
Roo,lennypops agrees with me,you don't. I'll look back at deflections and times when our opponents missed sitters. Against Norwich it was a deflection that was going out. Against Everton it was a deflection which scored for us. There's more but that's it for now. Coming down with flu and no balls to argue.
