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Yid Vicious said:
Right and wrong can be more difficult than that though. If someone said that West Brom would beat Chelsea are they wrong because the referee made a bad decision? Would someone else that said Chelsea wouldn't lose to West Brom be right? Not picking on Chelsea for another reason than it was right at the end of the game. We've seen in the last 2 seasons the fine lines in football, one result improved for us would've led to either Avb or Redknapp having had a great season.

The same can apply to players tactics or anything else. The same with the reasoning behind it, look at my prediction league attempts if we do win 5-0 and Soldado scores a hat trick it won't make me right because I'm just being optimistic, it's in my nature.
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Right or wrong in terms of team setup.

I said pre match Remys pace would be a problem, Sandro should be first name on the team sheet and brads lack of pace would be found out. All that shows is I viewed the situation and can say I was right.

That doesn't mean I should be manager, but fans are entitled to criticise a manager who they believe are making mistakes in team setup.

Tottenham is our club, and it's up to the manager to prove he's the right man, when he does then everyone will be happy.
 
Boss said:
Right or wrong in terms of team setup.

I said pre match Remys pace would be a problem, Sandro should be first name on the team sheet and brads lack of pace would be found out. All that shows is I viewed the situation and can say I was right.

That doesn't mean I should be manager, but fans are entitled to criticise a manager who they believe are making mistakes in team setup.

Tottenham is our club, and it's up to the manager to prove he's the right man, when he does then everyone will be happy.
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Yeah I know what you mean, I was just saying it's something to keep in mind. As I said it's fun expressing our opinions and there's no reason not to, it's just worth bearing in mind that it's easy for us to be backseat drivers and have the solutions but it's harder to actually prove it.

With Sandro I assumed as he got injured the other week the medical staff and AVB decided not to risk him starting.
 
In my original post I ended it by writing that I hope I am wrong and I genuinely do hope I am talking cack.

I don't care that we lose some games, I don't care that some decisions are wrong (this happens under all managers) and I have never thought a spurs manager should be sacked before, but I find myself being bored ****less watching a team that has been built at huge cost. I know we have self financed the buys by selling other players etc. but the truth is we have bought many exciting players and have not played one WHOLE good game this season...and by good game I mean expansive exciting football.

We were very good in the first half v chelsea and the first half v Everton and the last 30 mins v Newcastle. We played well in the main v Norwich, Villa and Cardiff. We played ok v palace, hull, Arsenal and were dire v west ham.

I think that is a poor return from such an exciting squad and honestly think that we are predictable to play against and boring to watch and it is doing my head in....and the truth is that for the second half of last season most of the excitement came from Bale rather than from the whole team playing exciting football.

I just want to be excited watching my team and that no longer is the case
 
Footballers all seem to play Fifa, use twitter, go clubbing, use big shopping centres, so it stands to reason they would also log onto web forums when at home, they are no different from most fans!

Managers I doubt it, they would start getting angry in interviews, insulting the fans, jumping up and down on the touchline, ........hang on a minute <laugh>
 
Boss said:
Footballers all seem to play Fifa, use twitter, go clubbing, use big shopping centres, so it stands to reason they would also log onto web forums when at home, they are no different from most fans!

Managers I doubt it, they would start getting angry in interviews, insulting the fans, jumping up and down on the touchline, ........hang on a minute <laugh>
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There'll be a day where a manager will explode in an interview and be like "Well if Boss off the not606 forum thinks he can do a better job, why don't he come down and prove it!" <laugh>
 
Spurs or Sex? said:
There'll be a day where a manager will explode in an interview and be like "Well if Boss off the not606 forum thinks he can do a better job, why don't he come down and prove it!" <laugh>
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That pretty much happened on the BBC 606 when the Gillingham chairman, Paul Scully, logged on and invited "know it all" Gills fans to do better than the then manager.
 
I couldn't...I give it the biggun about time to get rid of AVB on this thread and my daughter who turns 16 next week hears me out and then slaps me into line with
" so who replaces him then " and I say "ummmmmmmm.......eerrrrrrrrr" and she says sweet fa and throws me a pity look!!!
That's me well and truly put in my place <laugh>
 
Spurs or Sex? said:
There'll be a day where a manager will explode in an interview and be like "Well if Boss off the not606 forum thinks he can do a better job, why don't he come down and prove it!" <laugh>
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LOL..... '' AVB, you just take a seat and I'll show you how it's done ''...... Of course I would keep him on the payroll as a scout!
 
O.Spurcat said:
That pretty much happened on the BBC 606 when the Gillingham chairman, Paul Scully, logged on and invited "know it all" Gills fans to do better than the then manager.
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Have they kept the archives up, will need to see if they are there, just to read the replies!
 
O.Spurcat said:
That pretty much happened on the BBC 606 when the Gillingham chairman, Paul Scully, logged on and invited "know it all" Gills fans to do better than the then manager.
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Good PR move. I'm sure that went down well! <laugh>
 
Spurm said:
The choice the stick with a woeful Eriksen but drop a good Lamela for this match was bewildering.
The performance was pretty dire. If we had upped the tempo we would have ripped that Newcastle team apart.
The problem is not with the forward unit, its with speed we bring the ball out from defence/central midfield. We don't have an incisive passer further back and it slows it down and teams regroup and suddenly we have no options. Its very difficult to pick apart a premier league defence that is organised and is allowed time to organise.

I like the idea of dropping Holtby or Eriksen deeper. Probably Holtby as he is more battley. Dembele, who i do like, was shocking yesterday. Paulinho wasn't much better.
I'll admit, i've changed my mind and i'll bow to Boss for seeing it first, but Tommy Carroll might, MIGHT, fix this too.

People saying inverted wingers doesn't work is crazy. It works for loads of teams, but they don't faff around the halfway line waiting for opponents to sort themselves.

Sacking at manager is also crazy talk. We're not bottom, we're just playing poorly.
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I've also been disappointed all year by the slow buildup, feel it needs to change, and hope it did in the second half vs. Newcastle. There's a place for a slow buildup, and that place is when the other team has been controlling the game. I used to hate when we never took our time and faffed around when it works remarkably well in breaking the other team's momentum. Now I regret we do nothing but.

Whatever skill your players have, they're going to create more goals in 3 vs. 3 five vs. five or even three vs. four than they will 11 vs. 11 in the box. They don't need to get through a wall of bodies, simple as that.

I've certainly been an armchair critic along with everyone else, and not a particularly good one for that matter. But I'd rather hope we start using faster and slower buildups when appropriate, not pick one and stick to it.
 
Someone has calculated what the table looks like over the last 38 games, with the promoted side's average points per game used to work out their places:

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PleaseNotPoll said:
Someone has calculated what the table looks like over the last 38 games, with the promoted side's average points per game used to work out their places:

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That is interesting as at the start of the season I said 3rd to 6th could be separated by a mere 3 points and I was starting to think that was a poor prediction but its obviously possible and shows how tight the race for top four is,
 
We did have a very good Christmas period last season so it doesn't surprise me to see that we're high up on that our worst period must've been the start of last season.
 
Can you really compare a manager with another when one has been with us a lot longer than the other? If they were both here the same length of time then possibly you could but as it stands now I think we can't.
 
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