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sb_73

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"He's the villain for getting sent off. He's held his hands up and said he's sorry. There are only so many times you can say sorry."

Quoted in The Times. Good for Charlie, but impact on squad dynamics criticising your captain in the media?
 
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Hmm, not good for team morale though one always has to ask whether he has been fully quoted?
Did Barton not have a spell out mid season and we thought we played better without him or am I confusing him with someone else?
 
"There are only so many times you can say sorry" - Is that Charlie actually defending Barton in this specific incident or is that him having a general dig because JB keeps on sinning and they are fed up with him?
 
Hmm - that can be taken in a couple of different ways:

1) He's said sorry now lets move on and not worry about it any more..

2)He's a moron that has done this sort of cr*p repeatedly for our club and all the other clubs he's played for before.

Sort of depends how you want to slice it I guess. For the good of team morale I'm hoping it's number 1...but really I think we all know he means number 2!
 
Interesting. From my perspective there's only one way to read this - Barton ****ed up our chances by getting sent off in an especially moronic way and thinks saying sorry will sort it. It won't.
 
If Charlie was supporting Barton it would not be newsworthy, so only a negative or ambiguous spin on the quote makes it interesting as far as the press is concerned. Hate to be cynical, as regards the media, but I am presently involved in a case where there are 8 employees and last week a national newspaper reported the same case and quoted that there were 60 employees.
 
It's most likely a defence of Barton, tinged with frustration that they lost on Saturday due (in part at least) to playing for an hour with ten men. The press get a chance to quote it and make it sound worse than it probably is.

Slow news day, most likely.
 
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The whole quote, per BT Sport, was:

"I think he just went over to protect Darnell but it's a silly sending off."

"It's kind of cost us the game. He's the villain and rightly so for getting sent off. He's got to deal with it.

"He's going to miss the next three games and he's an important player for us, he's our captain.

"He's just held his hands up and said sorry...There's only so many times you can say sorry. We move on now, we've got a squad and that's the main thing."

I agree with Stan. Charlie was expressing his, and probably the team's, frustration at Barton's lack of control. Reportedly, Ramsey will sit down with Joey to see what options for addressing his anger problems Joey is open to. If Joey takes steps to resolve his issues, the whole team can move on. If he resists, there will be growing resentment. I think Joey is bright enough to do the former.
 
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The crux is the quote:
"He's just held his hands up and said sorry...There's only so many times you can say sorry. We move on now, we've got a squad and that's the main thing."
I'm pretty sure his meaning to this is - there's no point in continuously going over it, it's done and that Barton is contricious enough as opposed to the meaning some of us would prefer which is that Barton's an idiot and had sufficient chances.
 
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danishqp said:
The crux is the quote:
"He's just held his hands up and said sorry...There's only so many times you can say sorry. We move on now, we've got a squad and that's the main thing."
I'm pretty sure his meaning to this is - there's no point in continuously going over it, it's done and that Barton is contricious enough as opposed to the meaning some of us would prefer which is that Barton's an idiot and had sufficient chances.
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That's exactly what I took from it as well.
 
danishqp said:
The crux is the quote:
"He's just held his hands up and said sorry...There's only so many times you can say sorry. We move on now, we've got a squad and that's the main thing."
I'm pretty sure his meaning to this is - there's no point in continuously going over it, it's done and that Barton is contricious enough as opposed to the meaning some of us would prefer which is that Barton's an idiot and had sufficient chances.
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I think that's a fair assessment.
 
danishqp said:
The crux is the quote:
"He's just held his hands up and said sorry...There's only so many times you can say sorry. We move on now, we've got a squad and that's the main thing."
I'm pretty sure his meaning to this is - there's no point in continuously going over it, it's done and that Barton is contricious enough as opposed to the meaning some of us would prefer which is that Barton's an idiot and had sufficient chances.
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Agree Danish, fair assessment.
 
qpr_badger said:
Hmm - that can be taken in a couple of different ways:

1) He's said sorry now lets move on and not worry about it any more..

2)He's a moron that has done this sort of cr*p repeatedly for our club and all the other clubs he's played for before.

Sort of depends how you want to slice it I guess. For the good of team morale I'm hoping it's number 1...but really I think we all know he means number 2!
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I think Charlie definitely means 1).
Most of us on here agree with 2), but I'm convinced Charlie wouldn't completely blow team spirit to high heaven by having a go at the Captain in public..
He didn't word it very well, which leads to the ambiguity, but then most of what I read and hear from Charlie isn't the most eloquent (that's not a criticism, as he's paid to bang in the goals, not to speak with eloquence).

He's saying that we should move on, as there's only so many times Barton can say sorry. I think I agree, as nothing will change and we all need to stick together till the end of the season.
 
OK, probably more light and shade to this than I originally thought. I still hope Charlie takes Barton behind the bike shed at Harlington and gives him a Chinese burn and a wedgie though.

Puts the 'we'll make you proud boss' text to Fernandes from an anonymous player into an interesting context.
 
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