Attendances

[Jim the Tiger]

Lots of contributing factors Jim agreed. Still maintain if City ever get into the top two of the Championship via winning side we wouldn’t be having a discussion about how many empty seats there are at the MKM.

Hopefully I can be proven wrong.


UTT.

Be interesting what the Portsmouth fixture throws up attendance wise. Early kick off really does mess some people up. If we get something at Norwich it ought to be a full house with us playing to get into the play off spots.

 

[Cityzen]

I'm older generation and we did do things differently. Married in 1974 and rented, in those days rented accommodation was scarce. Remember going to see a rented cottage down Church Street in Sutton and there must have been 50 people in the queue outside waiting to view. This led to gazumping. My first rent for a flat on Park Avenue in Hull was £16 a week, and twice as much as my first mortgage for a two up two down house. My wife earned £15 a week working full time at Reckitts in those days, just enough to pay the rent. We save £10 a week for months to be able to put a deposit down for the mortgage, which was £300 then bought a very cheap run down house and 'did it up', moving up the housing ladder that way, a bit at a time.
We bought second hand furniture, a second hand telly, no central heating, no double glazing, and besides the mortgage, no debt.
Worked all the overtime possible, even took on a football pools round, and did odd jobs for people. The wife did part time jobs, even selling Avon door to door, whilst bringing up three children.
A takeaway was fish and chips, a treat, maybe once a fortnight and you went for it yourself.
We never had a car for the first five years of married life and our first one cost £50. Credit was available but I was brought up not to take on that sort of debt. 'If you cannot afford it, you don't need it' .
I sold City fireside bingo tickets and later the City scratch cards and used the 10% commission made on them to pay for my football on a Saturday.
Because we knew no different. That is how it was.
Que.....'we lived in a shoe box in a hole in the road'......

Be interesting what the Portsmouth fixture throws up attendance wise. Early kick off really does mess some people up. If we get something at Norwich it ought to be a full house with us playing to get into the play off spots.

I’ll bet a lot more Portsmouth fans make longer journey to here than we do for the shorter journey to Norwich.

 

[Drew]

We live in a society which loves to blame someone else. Young people driving round in brand new Audi A1's on finance drinking £4 coffee from starbucks and having a trip to Ibiza every summer for £2000 and then moaning because they cant get on the property ladder 'because prices are crazy' and 'they need too much deposit'.

Live to your means. My missus gets a bus to work a lot of days despite us being able to afford a second car. She is right, we dont really need it, the bus does the job, it just doesnt look cool on instagram I guess.

But your point about take aways is the key one for me. That is why we are a nation of sick and fat people. My neighbour who we share a drive with must get pizza delivered 5 days a week. Sometimes its one of their kids, but as a family they get pizza delivered 5 times a week at least. When I was working outside in summer and told him and his mate who were also working out there that I was looking forward to a pizza and a couple of cans as a treat for my birthday that evening they laughed in my face saying something about 'You're excited about a pizza for your birthday'. A take away is no longer a treat to people, it is now just their tea and having no washing up or cooking time means they can scroll facebook longer like a bunch of zombies.

I think ironically, Hull hasn't been impacted by rising house prices as such - the prices are still fairly affordable even if the area has low employment prospects and wages. The big issue in the economy as a whole is the lack of wage rise compared to house price growth. I appreciate interest rates were higher a number of years ago - but larger deposits are now required and that's a problem for a lot of young people, especially in larger cities. For many that's unachievable so what's the point when you can just enjoy life now instead.

The other big problem which I don't think society has quite clocked yet is the fact that its now difficult to survive as a single income household. In a couple both parties are now working full time and that's eating into time for leisure as people need to factor in house chores/kids etc. So the reason might not even be purely financial - we're increasingly time poor.

But also, I'm not sure what the massive fuss is to be honest. We should be happy with crowds over 20k, for a club that's been so chaotic in recent years after a period of malaise I think that's pretty good.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

I’ll bet a lot more Portsmouth fans make longer journey to here than we do for the shorter journey to Norwich.

Pompey kicks off at 3.00 pm on a Saturday afternoon, Norwich away is 12.30 kick off, big difference. Having said that we've been to Norwich at a time we were getting 20,000 plus gate at home and our away support was two buses, 150 max? And we won with ten men.

 

[Evington]

We live in a society which loves to blame someone else. Young people driving round in brand new Audi A1's on finance drinking £4 coffee from starbucks and having a trip to Ibiza every summer for £2000 and then moaning because they cant get on the property ladder 'because prices are crazy' and 'they need too much deposit'.

Live to your means. My missus gets a bus to work a lot of days despite us being able to afford a second car. She is right, we dont really need it, the bus does the job, it just doesnt look cool on instagram I guess.

But your point about take aways is the key one for me. That is why we are a nation of sick and fat people. My neighbour who we share a drive with must get pizza delivered 5 days a week. Sometimes its one of their kids, but as a family they get pizza delivered 5 times a week at least. When I was working outside in summer and told him and his mate who were also working out there that I was looking forward to a pizza and a couple of cans as a treat for my birthday that evening they laughed in my face saying something about 'You're excited about a pizza for your birthday'. A take away is no longer a treat to people, it is now just their tea and having no washing up or cooking time means they can scroll facebook longer like a bunch of zombies.

You sound like a right miserable old ****er. Just like me

 

[Evington]

I’ll bet a lot more Portsmouth fans make longer journey to here than we do for the shorter journey to Norwich.

And the point you are making is?

 

[Heimdallr]

And the point you are making is?

 

[Cityzen]

And the point you are making is?

Some clubs have keener fans who will get up earlier than ours and spend more time and money supporting their club.

 

[Evington]

Some clubs have keener fans who will get up earlier than ours and spend more time and money supporting their club.

Point made.

 

[Cityzen]

Pompey kicks off at 3.00 pm on a Saturday afternoon, Norwich away is 12.30 kick off, big difference. Having said that we've been to Norwich at a time we were getting 20,000 plus gate at home and our away support was two buses, 150 max? And we won with ten men.

Was there at that Norwich game. That season Leicester brought 3,000 here and took over bunkers. We took 2 buses down to their place. Must have been a cost of living crisis in Hull but not Leicester. Anyone turning up at 3 pm for the Pompey game will miss it as it is a 12.30pm kick off. Portsmouth to Hull is 120 miles more than Hull to Norwich so they would have to set off 2 - 3 hours earlier than us for Norwich. Yet we have returned most of our small allocation for Norwich and people saying they would have to get up too early.Pompey will have more here despite the earlier start and more expense.

 

[bradymk2]

Some clubs have keener fans who will get up earlier than ours and spend more time and money supporting their club.

maybe they need a hobby?

 

[Cityzen]

maybe they need a hobby?

Their hobby is their football club. Always some glib nonsense to justify our support being poorer.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

Was there at that Norwich game. That season Leicester brought 3,000 here and took over bunkers. We took 2 buses down to their place. Must have been a cost of living crisis in Hull but not Leicester. Anyone turning up at 3 pm for the Pompey game will miss it as it is a 12.30pm kick off. Portsmouth to Hull is 120 miles more than Hull to Norwich so they would have to set off 2 - 3 hours earlier than us for Norwich. Yet we have returned most of our small allocation for Norwich and people saying they would have to get up too early.Pompey will have more here despite the earlier start and more expense.

Quite honestly, I’m not sure why anyone would give a **** about this, you can’t change it and it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Was there at that Norwich game. That season Leicester brought 3,000 here and took over bunkers. We took 2 buses down to their place. Must have been a cost of living crisis in Hull but not Leicester. Anyone turning up at 3 pm for the Pompey game will miss it as it is a 12.30pm kick off. Portsmouth to Hull is 120 miles more than Hull to Norwich so they would have to set off 2 - 3 hours earlier than us for Norwich. Yet we have returned most of our small allocation for Norwich and people saying they would have to get up too early.Pompey will have more here despite the earlier start and more expense.

Thought Pompey at home was 3.00pm? Perhaps an away day in Hull is more of an attraction to Pompey fans then an away day for us in Portsmouth? Also Portsmouth and Norwich are one club cities, which makes a difference in my eyes.

 

[bradymk2]

Thought Pompey at home was 3.00pm? Perhaps an away day in Hull is more of an attraction to Pompey fans then an away day for us in Portsmouth? Also Portsmouth and Norwich are one club cities, which makes a difference in my eyes.

Cheap beer
National geographic must visit cities
Amazing old town

Its easy to see why theyd love visiting hull for an away day

 

[Evington]

Was there at that Norwich game. That season Leicester brought 3,000 here and took over bunkers. We took 2 buses down to their place. Must have been a cost of living crisis in Hull but not Leicester. Anyone turning up at 3 pm for the Pompey game will miss it as it is a 12.30pm kick off. Portsmouth to Hull is 120 miles more than Hull to Norwich so they would have to set off 2 - 3 hours earlier than us for Norwich. Yet we have returned most of our small allocation for Norwich and people saying they would have to get up too early.Pompey will have more here despite the earlier start and more expense.

And the point you are making is?

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

....... Lad I know is a Norwich season ticket holder and it costs him £530 for safe standing behind the goal compared to our £300.

In five home games, they've only scored 4 goals this season...Depending on which goal they are attacking that could be ZERO goals seen. At least our 12 home goals so far this season have been shared 50/50 between North and South.
Jake a Spurs fan, and the partner of my cousin Stacey, pays about £2,000 for his season ticket...According to him that's cheap...There again they do live in Boreham Wood. That's the difference, there's still plenty of disposable money down there, despite the $hit state the economy is in. In Hull there's not much left from a months salary with the cost of living continuing to increase hand over fist.

 

[Plum]

In five home games, they've only scored 4 goals this season...Depending on which goal they are attacking that could be ZERO goals seen. At least our 12 home goals so far this season have been shared 50/50 between North and South.
Jake a Spurs fan, and the partner of my cousin Stacey, pays about £2,000 for his season ticket...According to him that's cheap...There again they do live in Boreham Wood. That's the difference, there's still plenty of disposable money down there, despite the $hit state the economy is in. In Hull there's not much left from a months salary with the cost of living continuing to increase hand over fist.

I hear this cost of living/not much money in Hull line often and I'm not totally convinced. Cost of living affects everyone everywhere, rich or poor. There are plenty in the 'affluent' south working for minimum wage, struggling to make ends meet, even unemployed! Whenever I visit Hull I see plenty of smart cars, pubs full of people, the holiday thread on this board suggests many folk aren't on their uppers. I had a quick look at comparative unemployment rates in Hull, Norwich and Portsmouth. Not much difference.
I'll always remember a few years ago when the Fire Service were striking nationally. A friend who was a fireman in Hull said he was striking in support of the national action but he was actually a bit embarrassed. He felt quite well off in Hull as a firefighter and that's simply because of the enormous difference in house prices between the 'affluent' south and Hull.
I was at a wedding in Hull last weekend, 5 different events took place at the venue I was at. Money was flowing like water in the venue and in the local village pubs.
Of course I know Hull has it's problem areas, I was brought up in one, but so does everywhere else, north or south. I'm sure there are enough people in and around Hull who can afford to support City home and away if they want to enough, and that, I think is the issue.

 

[originalminority]

I hear this cost of living/not much money in Hull line often and I'm not totally convinced. Cost of living affects everyone everywhere, rich or poor. There are plenty in the 'affluent' south working for minimum wage, struggling to make ends meet, even unemployed! Whenever I visit Hull I see plenty of smart cars, pubs full of people, the holiday thread on this board suggests many folk aren't on their uppers. I had a quick look at comparative unemployment rates in Hull, Norwich and Portsmouth. Not much difference.
I'll always remember a few years ago when the Fire Service were striking nationally. A friend who was a fireman in Hull said he was striking in support of the national action but he was actually a bit embarrassed. He felt quite well off in Hull as a firefighter and that's simply because of the enormous difference in house prices between the 'affluent' south and Hull.
I was at a wedding in Hull last weekend, 5 different events took place at the venue I was at. Money was flowing like water in the venue and in the local village pubs.
Of course I know Hull has it's problem areas, I was brought up in one, but so does everywhere else, north or south. I'm sure there are enough people in and around Hull who can afford to support City home and away if they want to enough, and that, I think is the issue.

Agree Plum, I find it a lazy excuse. City's attendances have held up well, and in a less affluent area of our city the support for HKR has been brilliant home and away, an area which could possibly justify attendances being impacted by the cost of living crisis?

 

[TwoWrights]

Agree Plum, I find it a lazy excuse. City's attendances have held up well, and in a less affluent area of our city the support for HKR has been brilliant home and away, an area which could possibly justify attendances being impacted by the cost of living crisis?

East Hull is awash with HKR polyester tat.