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Atheists, Fascists and the St George's flag

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    mate if you saw what I saw in carmarthen, you would definately be fantasizing
     
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    Why, were you holding your teaching certificate aloft?
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

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    <laugh> dont even know where it is tbh. in the safe somewhere

    anyway, as I mentioned to you on the other thread I went to pick something up. The person who was selling the stuff was simply beautiful
    I can honestly say she was as good as i have ever seen. Even the voice suited her
     
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    Strange, crack dealers normally look withdrawn and half-dead.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    are you trying to tell us something mate?

    I live in stoke on trent, I really wouldnt have to travel almost 4 hrs (one way) to score drugs

    FFS even the scousers have started to move here, business is that good
     
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    To be fair even that doesn't compensate fully for having to visit Caermathen.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    TBF it was my first time, not only that but the stuff I picked up was saving me a few hundred quid
    everything else was a bonus, including the tuna and cheese melt at the services and a starbucks latte
    both of which I wouldnt normally go for

    Having said that, sajids on alum rock road was a let down. Its a dingy little place but the food is very good normally. wasnt last night/this morning. Especially as they had closed part of the M5 and had a diversion through Bromsgrove behind lorries on small roads taking forever
     
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    You seem to be failing miserably to understand my point Fan, probably deliberately, as I can't see how anyone would be that stupid.

    Saints are Christian.
    They're not recognised by other religions.
    A Muslim flying the flag of St George would be a hypocrite, going by the standard that you've set.
    Get it now?

    As for the anti-Semitism, you call anyone that disagrees with your own opinion about the Israel/Palestine situation a Jew.
    You're clearly using it as an insult.
    You didn't post a scriptural reference to anything when we first discussed your ludicrous claims about the holocaust, either.
    You linked to another neo-Nazi site and failed to back it up at all, as usual.

    Or those that simply don't believe that anyone's made any convincing claims for the existence of a god and dislike preaching loons, like yourself.
    It's impossible to dislike or hate something that you don't believe exists, except in a conceptual fashion.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    Don't tell me this **** is a Holocaust Denier too?

    What a surprise.

    <laugh>
     
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    He says that he doubts the overall numbers and not whether it actually happened or not.
    That's basically the stance of all holocaust deniers nowdays, as their previous claims have been totally destroyed.

    To back up this stance he's repeatedly linked to dodgy neo-Nazi sites.
    His first was a supposed study that was backed and published by the Journal of Historical Review, a holocaust denial rag.
    It was created by the Institute of Historical Review, an organisation started by David McCalden and Willis Carto.
    The former was a member of the National Front from Belfast, so he'd probably have had a few mates on here and the latter was an American white separatist, connected with the KKK.

    He's then linked to a couple of other, similarly themed claims.
    The first linked directly to Stormfront, whose slogan is White Pride World Wide, featured on this snazzy symbol:

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    For some reason this doesn't set any bells ringing with him! <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>

    Oh dear, Fan. What a ****-up <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Hmm...
     
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    sorry but thats total bollox, youre hatred towards religion and God (accept judaism it seems) is plain to see. Simply by the amount of times you bite when I do these type of articles, which is a lot.
     
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    :emoticon-0136-giggl so just the holocaust deniers doubt the figures huh? Lets explore this for a second shall we

    After Nuremburg trials the deaths at Auschwitz were put at around 2.5m by the commandant
    The russains and poles put it 3-4m

    The sign outside the camp said 4m untill 1989 when it was OFFICIALLY changed to 1.1 million
    Thats 1.1m total not just Jews but including Jews. so thats 2.9m that didnt happen
    so if the final figure after nuremburg was 6m total you need to at least subtract 2.5m from it straight away

    As for just holocaust deniers, what like Gerald reitlinger? or raul hilberg ( a jew no less), or how about Franciszek Piper? who estimated les than 1m jews a figure many other scholars agree with

    Now I can see you rapidly wikking all this and resorting to the 'well auschwitz was never 'really' part of the 6m figure' like the Nizkor Project attempts to do
    However bare 2 things in mind
    1- it still makes the 6m figure a load of rubbish if its more. My point is/was lets find out for sure
    2- that particular project itself doesnt say 6m full stop. It says 'the estimate of 5-6m' so it could be 5, however the 6 is very important so hence 6 sided star and 6 days of creation etc.

    You have to remember this 6m figure was used in WW1 too, and as I mentioned previously before then too

    What I find most disturbing in your diatribe is that you always forget 1 very vital thing
    The 6m figure that is 'accepted' today IS form NAZI's <doh> , you heard of wilhelm Hottl? check it up. His testimony is in essence where the figure comes from. SO technically YOU are citing nazi figures

    Of course if you think they are all deniers too, bring the evidence

    Oh and I think you know I am asian, so posting that badge? really?
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I was just giving him rope and as usual he hung himself

    ask him about elizabeth sturdy colls and her mysteriously never seen PHD thesis

    <laugh>

    I own this guy
     
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  18. Mick

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    Why do you keep trying to make religion relevant to things?

    It's not relevant to the Monarchy, it's not relevant really to Nationalism, it's not relevant to being English - it's just not really relevant to the majority of western people's lives in any meaningful way.
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

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    It is to those who proclaim to be atheist and want footballers to sing 'God save the queen'
    or those who want foreigners out but say so under a foreign standard/flag, based on religion

    so you see it Is relevant to nationalism, being english and the monarchy, as most people lives seem to revolve around these things

    also it seems that most of the doctrines that govern our lives are entrenched in religion, and a politicians religious affiliations can affect the votes they gain
    a large proportion of the population believe in things like the ascension to heaven and such so I believe its one of, if not teh most relevant thing still in society today
     
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  20. Mick

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    I gave a lazy point - but honestly if I actually put effort into trying to debate with religious types I end up being immensely frustrated by the fact that all my reason and logic is completely overlooked in favour of some nonsensical jabber about how I'm wrong because some ancient book says so.

    Approx 15% of all citizens in the United Kingdom go to Church once a month http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/03_04_07_tearfundchurch.pdf - So a small minority of people regularly attend church - it's an irrelevance therefore to most peoples lives.

    While we do have historical lyrics, popular sayings (for gawd sake) and superstitions and whatnot - nobody really cares about it any more because it's simply not very attractive to the literate mind.
     
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