Match Day Thread Aston Villa vs QPR

Bwood_Ranger · Jan 1, 2019

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Oh well, this is from the villa talk forum and he must be overfrustrated....

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Grrrrrr and also Aaaaaargh.

It's all very well adding eleven minutes at the end, but it doesn't really make much difference if you're still going to continue to allow the time wasting. That game lasted for 104 minutes and a good 70 of those were spent with their right back taking throw ins as slowly as he possibly could, from wherever he liked.

We opened slowly but methodically built to the point where we put some pressure on them and then scored. Even in that opening twenty minutes though, there had already been some time wasting from their keeper and a succession of pull backs and fouls, none of which had tempted a card from the referee. We then went into a slightly lazy mode having scored and they pulled a wonder goal out of the bag. As soon as it went in, they pushed the time wasting and the fouls a little more until by half time, they were perfectly satisfied they understood the referee.

The keeper took the slightest of flicks from Kodjia, there was next to nothing in it - it took seven minutes for the physios to ask him if he was alright and comb his eyebrows a few times - in so far as I could see, there was no blood. There really ought to be some sort of rule with players that if an injury can't be treated in five minutes an enforced substitution has to take place, other than in the case of the most serious injures (Neck, spinal etc). The actions of their physio who came back onto the field of play to treat a keeper who had started the process of taking the free kick were a disgrace and I'd like to see him fined.

The game then became a bit frantic through our frustrations and they scored on the break, our bench were incensed by the QPR tactics, our players were too and our discipline went a little. The two subs changed it and we deserved the equaliser, but it was hard getting anything going because of the cheating. The number two, as well as his two-minute-throw-in routine also went down on four separate occasions holding the back of his head - getting up just in time to avoid the physio having to come on in each case - I can only imagine he'd bumped it getting off the bus. I hope he bumps it again getting back on.

They were vile throughout, fouls, pushing and the worst time wasting I think I've ever seen. How the number two goes home without a booking is utterly beyond me. The man who knows would be our referee; Mr Linington - it's not a name I've seen before and I would assume on this performance, not a name I'll see again - he never had any sort of control over this game at all, from the opening moments he was managed and controlled by QPR. A referee of any sort of ability whips out a couple of cards immediately after half time for time wasting and we get a game of football. He's awful and I hope he has lovely 2019 in whichever other profession he decides to take up; refereeing ain't for you James.

For us, I thought the key thing (and it was really noticeable) was how tired our middle two looked - McGinn's attitude gets him through games, he's still trying to McGinn along, but the legs have lost some snap, Hourihane looks knackered - both are ghosts of the players we had a month ago. Bjarnason was our best midfielder on the day, simply through not looking like he'd run the London marathon as a warm up. We miss Grealish that's obvious, but I think what's perhaps been overlooked is that we really miss Lansbury - he'd be perfect to have given each of these two a rest over the Christmas period.

Elphick improved the defence, we look like a team with two centrebacks, it's not perfect but it's better - Bree looked good for long periods and then would occasionally spoil it with a bad pass, I'd persist with him. Hutton was poor today - the touch wasn't there. Jed Steer didn't do anything of note, but he also doesn't make me feel afraid.

Adomah looked good for an hour I thought. Kodjia looked dangerous to a point, but then got every single decision he made wrong. Take him on again when the cross is there, cross to an empty box, shoot when there's a man unmarked in a better position. I remain completely unconvinced by Jimmy the winger. The two that came on looked full of life and ideas and running and I thought if either team deserved to win on the balance of play it was us, but then I also thought that if either team deserved to win on the basis of karma, or the principles of the game, or sporting principles, it was definitely us.

Best player on the pitch was Abraham - he was strong against the barrel-on-legs 37 of theirs, he was excellent at holding the ball and linking play, he called their keeper a couple of names that he thoroughly deserved and he scored two opportunist goals. He's got ability, an excellent attitude to the work and character that's evident in the way he approaches games and the way he interacts with a crowd. He came and thanked everybody at the end and gave the Holte End a couple of little waves - I'm hoping that's just because he's a good lad rather than because he's off - we'd be poorer without him, there are times where I wonder if Chelsea are poorer without him. He's a class act.

So, yeah - another draw - one we've been unlucky not to get something from - one that's been earned by a team playing anti-football and a compliant, weak referee. I took my eleven year old nephew - he wants his Sunday team to have a game tomorrow so that he can kick someone. I know how he feels.

We'll have better days, better referees, better results. We could do with a bit of a rest, but there's not too much fundamentally wrong with this side. QPR on the other hand need to have a good look at themselves and ask what it is they want to be - it's a point they can be ashamed of
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The excuses they make for themselves every week is nothing short of bizarre now. Over half the season gone and they’re below us and ****ing Birmingham with that budget. They’ve thrown away leads in the last three games and failed to beat a depleted side that just lost to ****ing Rotherham.

jeffranger · Jan 1, 2019

Pathetic fans if you call them that, they should be grateful they got a point out of the match!

QPR999 · Jan 1, 2019

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What scummy self obsessed fans Villa have
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May I refer you to post #135 on this thread ?

QPR999 · Jan 1, 2019

QPR fans at half time ... 20 yards or 30 yards, everywhere we go. 40 yards or 50 yards Freeman's scoring goals, Freeman's scoring goals.
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Posted 45 minutes ago
Grrrrrr and also Aaaaaargh.

It's all very well adding eleven minutes at the end, but it doesn't really make much difference if you're still going to continue to allow the time wasting. That game lasted for 104 minutes and a good 70 of those were spent with their right back taking throw ins as slowly as he possibly could, from wherever he liked.

We opened slowly but methodically built to the point where we put some pressure on them and then scored. Even in that opening twenty minutes though, there had already been some time wasting from their keeper and a succession of pull backs and fouls, none of which had tempted a card from the referee. We then went into a slightly lazy mode having scored and they pulled a wonder goal out of the bag. As soon as it went in, they pushed the time wasting and the fouls a little more until by half time, they were perfectly satisfied they understood the referee.

The keeper took the slightest of flicks from Kodjia, there was next to nothing in it - it took seven minutes for the physios to ask him if he was alright and comb his eyebrows a few times - in so far as I could see, there was no blood. There really ought to be some sort of rule with players that if an injury can't be treated in five minutes an enforced substitution has to take place, other than in the case of the most serious injures (Neck, spinal etc). The actions of their physio who came back onto the field of play to treat a keeper who had started the process of taking the free kick were a disgrace and I'd like to see him fined.

The game then became a bit frantic through our frustrations and they scored on the break, our bench were incensed by the QPR tactics, our players were too and our discipline went a little. The two subs changed it and we deserved the equaliser, but it was hard getting anything going because of the cheating. The number two, as well as his two-minute-throw-in routine also went down on four separate occasions holding the back of his head - getting up just in time to avoid the physio having to come on in each case - I can only imagine he'd bumped it getting off the bus. I hope he bumps it again getting back on.

They were vile throughout, fouls, pushing and the worst time wasting I think I've ever seen. How the number two goes home without a booking is utterly beyond me. The man who knows would be our referee; Mr Linington - it's not a name I've seen before and I would assume on this performance, not a name I'll see again - he never had any sort of control over this game at all, from the opening moments he was managed and controlled by QPR. A referee of any sort of ability whips out a couple of cards immediately after half time for time wasting and we get a game of football. He's awful and I hope he has lovely 2019 in whichever other profession he decides to take up; refereeing ain't for you James.

For us, I thought the key thing (and it was really noticeable) was how tired our middle two looked - McGinn's attitude gets him through games, he's still trying to McGinn along, but the legs have lost some snap, Hourihane looks knackered - both are ghosts of the players we had a month ago. Bjarnason was our best midfielder on the day, simply through not looking like he'd run the London marathon as a warm up. We miss Grealish that's obvious, but I think what's perhaps been overlooked is that we really miss Lansbury - he'd be perfect to have given each of these two a rest over the Christmas period.

Elphick improved the defence, we look like a team with two centrebacks, it's not perfect but it's better - Bree looked good for long periods and then would occasionally spoil it with a bad pass, I'd persist with him. Hutton was poor today - the touch wasn't there. Jed Steer didn't do anything of note, but he also doesn't make me feel afraid.

Adomah looked good for an hour I thought. Kodjia looked dangerous to a point, but then got every single decision he made wrong. Take him on again when the cross is there, cross to an empty box, shoot when there's a man unmarked in a better position. I remain completely unconvinced by Jimmy the winger. The two that came on looked full of life and ideas and running and I thought if either team deserved to win on the balance of play it was us, but then I also thought that if either team deserved to win on the basis of karma, or the principles of the game, or sporting principles, it was definitely us.

Best player on the pitch was Abraham - he was strong against the barrel-on-legs 37 of theirs, he was excellent at holding the ball and linking play, he called their keeper a couple of names that he thoroughly deserved and he scored two opportunist goals. He's got ability, an excellent attitude to the work and character that's evident in the way he approaches games and the way he interacts with a crowd. He came and thanked everybody at the end and gave the Holte End a couple of little waves - I'm hoping that's just because he's a good lad rather than because he's off - we'd be poorer without him, there are times where I wonder if Chelsea are poorer without him. He's a class act.

So, yeah - another draw - one we've been unlucky not to get something from - one that's been earned by a team playing anti-football and a compliant, weak referee. I took my eleven year old nephew - he wants his Sunday team to have a game tomorrow so that he can kick someone. I know how he feels.

We'll have better days, better referees, better results. We could do with a bit of a rest, but there's not too much fundamentally wrong with this side. QPR on the other hand need to have a good look at themselves and ask what it is they want to be - it's a point they can be ashamed of
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**** me. Didn't see any blood? What game was this blind idiot watching?
The kick in Lumley's face was a disgrace .
McGinn commited as many niggly fouls as any of our players.
Christ I really don't like this lot!
I will concede that we did over do the time wasting a bit, especially Lumley.

kiwiqpr · Jan 1, 2019

so were we guilty of all this time wasting they talk about
and why did we do it

kiwiqpr · Jan 1, 2019

Rangerw9 · Jan 1, 2019

QPR999 said: ↑

QPR fans at half time ... 20 yards or 30 yards, everywhere we go. 40 yards or 50 yards Freeman's scoring goals, Freeman's scoring goals.
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Loved this at halftime. Brilliant

igor60 · Jan 2, 2019

We werent timewasting half of that much, that villa-fans are saying. They should be happy, that kodija werent sent off....

Rangers Til I Die · Jan 1, 2019

Busy all day and just watched highlights.

Pity the BFG was beaten for their second - just a question of height or leg stretch or something.

Does feel like two points dropped now but I was honestly was not expecting anything from this game and would gladly have taken the draw so no huge disappointment really.

Well done the Rss.

As for the Villa fans, they are just morphing into a combination of the deplorable Dean and He Who Must Not Be Named (though we did have 21 fouls to their 10!!).

Rangerw9 · Jan 1, 2019

kiwiqpr said: ↑

so were we guilty of all this time wasting they talk about
and why did we do it
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I don’t think we were tbh . I thought it was a really professional performance. Some players really stepped up . We deserved 3 points .

rangercol · Jan 1, 2019

Rangers Til I Die said: ↑

Busy all day and just watched highlights.

Pity the BFG was beaten for their second - just a question of height or leg stretch or something.

Does feel like two points dropped now but I was honestly was not expecting anything from this game and would gladly have taken the draw so no huge disappointment really.

Well done the Rss.

As for the Villa fans, they are just morphing into a combination of the deplorable Dean and He Who Must Not Be Named (though we did have 21 fouls to their 10!!).
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He had a poor game mate. He also lost Abraham for their first.

Sooperhoop · Jan 1, 2019

One to cheer up the ladies...

Rangers Til I Die · Jan 1, 2019

rangercol said: ↑

He had a poor game mate. He also lost Abraham for their first.
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Pity but he's allowed to be less than perfect from time to time. Hoping the next time will be a year or so!

Bwood_Ranger · Jan 1, 2019

rangercol said: ↑

He had a poor game mate. He also lost Abraham for their first.
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The first was just a perfect ball in.

Tramore Ranger · Jan 1, 2019

igor60 said: ↑

Oh well, this is from the villa talk forum and he must be overfrustrated....

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Grrrrrr and also Aaaaaargh.

It's all very well adding eleven minutes at the end, but it doesn't really make much difference if you're still going to continue to allow the time wasting. That game lasted for 104 minutes and a good 70 of those were spent with their right back taking throw ins as slowly as he possibly could, from wherever he liked.

We opened slowly but methodically built to the point where we put some pressure on them and then scored. Even in that opening twenty minutes though, there had already been some time wasting from their keeper and a succession of pull backs and fouls, none of which had tempted a card from the referee. We then went into a slightly lazy mode having scored and they pulled a wonder goal out of the bag. As soon as it went in, they pushed the time wasting and the fouls a little more until by half time, they were perfectly satisfied they understood the referee.

The keeper took the slightest of flicks from Kodjia, there was next to nothing in it - it took seven minutes for the physios to ask him if he was alright and comb his eyebrows a few times - in so far as I could see, there was no blood. There really ought to be some sort of rule with players that if an injury can't be treated in five minutes an enforced substitution has to take place, other than in the case of the most serious injures (Neck, spinal etc). The actions of their physio who came back onto the field of play to treat a keeper who had started the process of taking the free kick were a disgrace and I'd like to see him fined.

The game then became a bit frantic through our frustrations and they scored on the break, our bench were incensed by the QPR tactics, our players were too and our discipline went a little. The two subs changed it and we deserved the equaliser, but it was hard getting anything going because of the cheating. The number two, as well as his two-minute-throw-in routine also went down on four separate occasions holding the back of his head - getting up just in time to avoid the physio having to come on in each case - I can only imagine he'd bumped it getting off the bus. I hope he bumps it again getting back on.

They were vile throughout, fouls, pushing and the worst time wasting I think I've ever seen. How the number two goes home without a booking is utterly beyond me. The man who knows would be our referee; Mr Linington - it's not a name I've seen before and I would assume on this performance, not a name I'll see again - he never had any sort of control over this game at all, from the opening moments he was managed and controlled by QPR. A referee of any sort of ability whips out a couple of cards immediately after half time for time wasting and we get a game of football. He's awful and I hope he has lovely 2019 in whichever other profession he decides to take up; refereeing ain't for you James.

For us, I thought the key thing (and it was really noticeable) was how tired our middle two looked - McGinn's attitude gets him through games, he's still trying to McGinn along, but the legs have lost some snap, Hourihane looks knackered - both are ghosts of the players we had a month ago. Bjarnason was our best midfielder on the day, simply through not looking like he'd run the London marathon as a warm up. We miss Grealish that's obvious, but I think what's perhaps been overlooked is that we really miss Lansbury - he'd be perfect to have given each of these two a rest over the Christmas period.

Elphick improved the defence, we look like a team with two centrebacks, it's not perfect but it's better - Bree looked good for long periods and then would occasionally spoil it with a bad pass, I'd persist with him. Hutton was poor today - the touch wasn't there. Jed Steer didn't do anything of note, but he also doesn't make me feel afraid.

Adomah looked good for an hour I thought. Kodjia looked dangerous to a point, but then got every single decision he made wrong. Take him on again when the cross is there, cross to an empty box, shoot when there's a man unmarked in a better position. I remain completely unconvinced by Jimmy the winger. The two that came on looked full of life and ideas and running and I thought if either team deserved to win on the balance of play it was us, but then I also thought that if either team deserved to win on the basis of karma, or the principles of the game, or sporting principles, it was definitely us.

Best player on the pitch was Abraham - he was strong against the barrel-on-legs 37 of theirs, he was excellent at holding the ball and linking play, he called their keeper a couple of names that he thoroughly deserved and he scored two opportunist goals. He's got ability, an excellent attitude to the work and character that's evident in the way he approaches games and the way he interacts with a crowd. He came and thanked everybody at the end and gave the Holte End a couple of little waves - I'm hoping that's just because he's a good lad rather than because he's off - we'd be poorer without him, there are times where I wonder if Chelsea are poorer without him. He's a class act.

So, yeah - another draw - one we've been unlucky not to get something from - one that's been earned by a team playing anti-football and a compliant, weak referee. I took my eleven year old nephew - he wants his Sunday team to have a game tomorrow so that he can kick someone. I know how he feels.

We'll have better days, better referees, better results. We could do with a bit of a rest, but there's not too much fundamentally wrong with this side. QPR on the other hand need to have a good look at themselves and ask what it is they want to be - it's a point they can be ashamed of
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What the f*ck?

Tramore Ranger · Jan 1, 2019

Just watching the FL show on Quest....
I'm sure we played today and got a really good point but you wouldn't have known about it as we barely got an acknowledgement on the show....2 terrific goals not shown a 2nd time....just talked about how good Abraham is....
Stay below the radar...

Oh and they didn't show the challenge on Lumley either....

ELLERS · Jan 1, 2019

Tramore Ranger said: ↑

Just watching the FL show on Quest....
I'm sure we played today and got a really good point but you wouldn't have known about it as we barely got an acknowledgement on the show....2 terrific goals not shown a 2nd time....just talked about how good Abraham is....
Stay below the radar...

Oh and they didn't show the challenge on Lumley either....
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Villa have no class (a bit like Chelsea). They are acting on Twitter like spoilt brats. Sad thing is that they have spent the last 10+ in decline. Even in the Prem every season they struggled to stay up. Now in the Championship they are lower than us. A big club would have more class than to worry about knocking our team and away support. (which wasn't bad for New years day).
The media will talk about them because they were once a Perm regular team. Give it 2-3 seasons down here and they will be as popular as Forest.

QPR999 · Jan 2, 2019

igor60 said: ↑

The keeper took the slightest of flicks from Kodjia, there was next to nothing in it - it took seven minutes for the physios to ask him if he was alright and comb his eyebrows a few times - in so far as I could see, there was no blood
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QPR999 · Jan 2, 2019

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I'm obviously not talking about the injury!!!!
That was a disgrace and should have been a red card imo.
I'm referring to the last 20 minutes or so where Lumley was trying every trick in the book to waste time and was lucky not to get a 2nd yellow following his booking for the same thing.
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**** 'em Col, I've seen countless sides do this to us at Loftus Road when they've been hanging on for a draw or a win down the years and we've been a bit slow on the uptake. Hull were doing it a couple of weeks ago and I was thinking '**** this, I'm not going to bother attending anymore games. ' This time wasting nonsense is ruining the game. It's all done on purpose whether it's a goal kick, a free kick or a throw in.
You'll never see a goalie receive a second yellow for time wasting. The only way you can resolve this, is to play two halves of thirty minutes with the ball in play ( 57 minutes( ( The ball is in play for an average of https://talksport.com/football/3159...emier-league-side-201718-season-171127263506/ ) ) in each game this would work out about roughly an hour. I did a thread on this about five years ago and it received zero responses.

Let's play half an hour each way of the ball in play with an independent time keeper and this time wasting **** is gone.

I've watched the Villa game back and Lumley was down and receiving treatment for six and a half minutes. ( Incident happened at 47:42 minutes and was resolved on 54:10 minutes. ) So where did the fourteen minutes added on time come from?

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