Aston Martin: Team Thread

Its interesting but not that interesting.

Obviously they can be talking pure drivel and come out with a totally different looking car.

they did some nice things last year to look for radical solutions like the rear wing but really made little progress forward.

I feel the ferrair concept last year was the wrong way to go. whatever strengths the car had in stability in corners were great but top end and speed were not there and the big body work seemsed by the end to be the "wrong way"

The merc was lousy underneath or whatever so it was inherently unstable and **** low to the gorund or on any bumps so the negligible pods was no real help to them. We just don't know if this is "the eventual way to go" or not.

The redbull was running higher but just plain better are pulling the DF vortices and was stable everywhere. aston copied their body but cant prelicate the chassis.

It'll be interesting to see where the teams converge to,

 

Interesting post, not sure I agree we’re going to see convergence in the short term and on Ferrari and I think you’ll see them continuing with their concept this year. Their straight line weaknesses seemed to primarily come from turning the ICE down for reliability, rather than too much drag and their tyre weakness from being less successful at removing weight from the car than RedBull.

RedBull did very little aerodynamically last year and focussed on developing the chassis in season, so I wouldn’t be surprised if their test car shows more aero concept development than Ferrari especially as their lack of aero runs mean it makes sense to focus the development budget elsewhere as the season goes on once again.

 

I don't know if I'd follow that ferrari line (I read that about their reliability step and imo that's telling their fans what they want to hear)

inherently that car bounced like a ****er but magically stabilised as it got to corners.

there's chassis work and top end speed work to be done on drag.

 

I did wonder about that. It was almost as if hitting the brakes had more of an effect on the aero than in other cars. It was like magic but in F1 it's more likely they found a loop hole or some grey area in the rules.

 

it was very odd as even in fast corners the turn in looked like they were totally stable.

I just don't know how that works.

 

I agree- but whilst it looked supreme in the opening third of the season, once the tech directive came in about monitoring the bouncing, they seemed to lose that X factor.

(Equally though, we hear they turned theirPU down for reliability too at a similar time, so maybe only one thing correlates, unless of course both do!)

I am intrigued to see how teams trade off downforce and drag in this second year of the regs, as some got it far better than others.

 

weight
drag
ride height
stability.
power.
ground effect
finding some loophole to beat the system.

merc got drag, stability wrong and it affected ride height and so ground effect.

Ferrari looked compromised at some points on stability.and not others

redbull was ultra stable with a much higher base ride height so no matter what the track they were there in the sweet spot. they claimed weight was main issue.

it's hard to predict but I've a feeling Ferrari will self destruct as usual

 

Couple of rumours that Aston Martin have an “L” shape sidepod- the RBR inlet mixed with a little of the Ferrari design.

Some footage from inside the factory with Alonso and Stroll gave a glimpse to the eagle eyed (and IT gurus) who were watching to see through the blurred backgrounds!

All very much speculation but let’s see- not too long til launch season!

 

Team launch on Monday, as do McLaren

 

watched a bit of the Aston Martin launch


looks bang average bit had to turn off the lance show.

the propaganda to go to him first, refer to him as 7 years in sport and blah blah blah is just laughable.

even said he spanked vettel which is an outright lie.

alonso will either destroy him or fall out badly with team very very quickly.

 

they have completed copied the red bull pod design with longer lower edge but have a very blocky looking ending to it.

strongly suspect its not final car or it'll be ****.

 

Zoom in to that front on picture- those sculpted sides directing airflow to the back look like vacuums!!

 

hmmm.

not visible on live stream

it is certainly a babybel ferrari but tilted down to drive the air.

what that air is powering is the question. its headed right for the floor.

the top of the engine cover is much bulkier than other cars, particularly red bull and mclaren today.

aside from that is much much wider at the outer edges, this might be Aston means to get a stable outer floor and vortices but it can't be the best way to go.

copying both ferrari and redbull in places

 

There’s something about that Aston Martin group that means business though. There’s a bit of unnerving confidence they’ve made a step forward- I wonder if there’s a trick or two underneath or no visible today.

They remind me of McLaren around the Millennium - ambitious, serious, and focussed. No complacency. Well funded. Technical tools all on the way.

I wonder if this is their breakthrough year in looking a genuine threat…

We will soon see. I expect Ferrari sidepod design to look very similar to theirs.

 

there's a lot of talk but talk is talk.

in the end the difference in mclaren then and Aston now has to be stroll. this is a major blind spot

 

AM shakedown today:

 

hmmmm the merc resemblance!!!!!

what is goingbon under that cowling that both Aston and merc have those bulbous lumps behind the halo

 

1:04 to get a glimpse of the car at high speed.

Not much to glean from this but a little teaser for testing

 

Looks like Lance is out of testing due to a minor injury in training on a bike.

 

they might actually get somewhere niw they can focus on alonso