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Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by TheCasual, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    No, he's just top class and does not give a single ****.
     
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  2. Erik

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    Indeed.
     
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  3. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I actually agree with you <ok>
     
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  4. Muffinthegoat

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    Just suppose the CEO of Marks & Spencer announced he was changing the trading name to Marks & Sparks because he thought it would appeal more to foreign markets. Then when he said he hadn't actually done any market research to see if it would work, and wouldn't tell anyone how he arrived at his decision, he could expect to be treated with derision. However, if he said he had conducted extensive market research and that the results from the experts told him that it would indeed result in extra revenue, then he would be left alone to prove it.
    Mr. Allam could put this to bed by doing similar. All the experts I have heard have said that it would either have no benefit or it could end up having an adverse effect.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Someone else decided to shorten their name to make it more appealing internationally.

    They changed their name from Royal Mail to Consignia and it's now offered up as a lesson on what not to do.

    'The nine letters that spelled fiasco', as the BBC once reported.
     
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  6. TygerTyger

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    Yes, but the "Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company" changed their name to Kelloggs and that seems to have worked for them.
     
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  7. Erik

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    No, I'm a pineopple, and you're a rospberry
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    The world was a very different place 100 years ago, if that's the best example you can find, then thanks for backing up my point.
     
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  9. TygerTyger

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    Indeed it was, and that's why we should change with the times. I'm pleased you've finally accepted the need for this name change. You've evolved!
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Allam riding the Tiger over Hull City name change

    It didn't take long for my phone to light up with a text message on Tuesday morning. "Hull Tigers?? Really?!" it read.

    The apparent disbelief was from a friend, a supporter of another football club. The news that Assem Allam would be pressing on with his plans to rebrand his club after 109 years as Hull City Association Football Club had travelled quickly. Even accounting for the inevitable mirth of the inquisitor, you cannot blame folk for double-checking such a madcap tale.

    These are changing times in East Yorkshire. A club founded in 1904 could be about to disregard its history and heritage and be reborn as Hull Tigers. Allam says he will take time before he makes a final decision early in the new year but the traditionalists are not holding their breath.

    The rebranding saga -- one born in the spring when Hull City Tigers Ltd was first registered at Companies House and subsequently brought to the public attention in August -- is in danger of overshadowing a season laden with promise.

    Twelfth in the Premier League, with 14 points already banked, Steve Bruce's men should be able to use the international break to reflect positively on the first quarter and plan for the closing weeks of 2013 without trepidation. Instead, all that supporters have been left to debate this week is what name their side will play under from next August. All clubs will face distractions during a season's course, but none quite like this one.

    If a poll conducted by the Hull Daily Mail is anything to go by, this is a hugely unpopular move from Allam. Of 3,600 supporters to respond on the eve of the new season, just 9.8 percent would welcome a change to Hull Tigers. The vast majority, meanwhile, were more than happy for the club to stay just as it is.

    Allam, however, takes a markedly different view. The unconventional owner and chairman is adamant he has the majority of supporters in his camp. By his reckoning, 98 percent would not object to change so long as the club continues to flourish in the top flight.

    Whatever conclusion you choose to draw, this is turning into a horribly unwholesome affair. Both sides of the divide -- be that the single-minded Allam or one of his many vocal opponents -- only want what is best for the club, yet hold passionately polarised views.

    Allam is certainly not for turning. A shortened name, he tell us, will be a golden ticket to gatecrash football's global market. With "a symbol of power" like the tiger, the 74-year-old multimillionaire believes he's cracked it.

    Then there are those, specifically a group named "City Till We Die", who will not surrender Hull City AFC without a fight. Why fix what's not broken? Allam has incorrectly dismissed that collective as "200 fans with banners" and said no matter how loud they shout, their voices will not be heard. Such flagrant rhetoric has done little to help matters.

    Typifying the sadness of this whole situation, the supporters against the changes are lodged in an impossible situation. Their appreciation for Allam is huge after his reported investment of 75 million pounds built a squad as strong as any in the club's history, but tampering with history brings inevitable unease. For some, you suspect, it will be a step too far.

    The question Allam cannot answer, or at least chooses not to, is how a change to Hull Tigers will transform the club's fortunes on the international market. Other than calling it "textbook marketing" he offers the disgruntled supporters not a scrap of evidence to support his theory.

    In several interviews on Tuesday he was pressed on what research he will use to arrive at a final decision over the club's new name. "That's my decision; I don't allow questioning of this," was one typically spiky response.

    Although Hull Tigers is his stated preference, a final decision over the club's name change is expected in either February or March. Hull City Tigers is seemingly still in the running, but plain old Hull City is about to leave the building.

    One can only assume the following step will be for Allam to take his new name to football's authorities. The Football Association moved to clear up confusion this week by stressing that the club's playing name remains Hull City and nothing would change until at least next season. For a change to Hull Tigers or Hull City Tigers to take effect for 2014-15, an application would need to be received and judged by the FA's council. That could be the last stop on the line for those clinging to tradition.

    Back to the text message that started all this, and while fans from rival clubs can mock, there is a wider issue for football's traditionalists to fear. While they might have acclimatised to the modern game played out in the Emirates and the Etihad, there are some things they hoped would be immune to change. If a football club's very name is no longer sacrosanct, then what is?

    http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/hullcity/id/98?cc=5739
     
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  11. rovertiger

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    ''If a football club's very name is no longer sacrosanct, then what is?''

    Says it all for me!!
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    Removed from the KC at the request of AA...

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    History is being rewritten.
     
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  13. Happy Tiger

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    Taking a picture down is rewriting our history?

    No wonder he isnt taking you lot seriously.
     
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  14. Davies Headband

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    Photos at the KC sure have caused that bloke some agro!
     
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  15. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    If that's correct, it's despicable of him. It is a huge part of Hull City's history and only a total philistine would deny it.
     
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  16. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    You really do behave like a tit.
     
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  17. Summerof69

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    Oh come on. I've been sitting on the fence through most of this and listened to both sides of the argument but even you have to admit it is pretty bizarre to say the least, to take down a picture of one of the most important moments in the club's history?

    Can you imagine any other situation where that would realistically happen.

    This is starting to get more than a little silly now.

    The reason that I've been sitting on the fence is that, to me, the overiding consideration is that we have a club to watch and support, which is largely down to Mr. Allam and although I don't really agree about the name change, it's not going to stop me supporting the team that I have been following for the last 44 years. However, I suspect that some of the things that he has been saying and doing lately are going to start making a lot more of the fence sitters like me start to wobble a bit away from supporting his running of the club.
     
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  18. Hank Scorpio

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    He's banging on about showing us that it'll be financially lucrative to the club, but he's had 4/5 months now, and we've yet to hear anything from any financial adviser.

    Has he not found one that agrees with him yet.
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Link??
     
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  20. Davies Headband

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    It wasn't in the main reception or Kingston Suite early this week...
     
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