Ashley Williams

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The guardian

Sunderland’s manager, Gus Poyet, is hoping to add the Wales captain, Ashley Williams, to his squad after tabling a bid for the defender.

The club are believed to have made Swansea an offer of around £4m for the 29-year-old, who is yet to agree a new deal at the Liberty Stadium, prompting a flurry of interest. Williams has a year left on his current contract but could leave the Swans for free next summer if he does not agree an extension.

Poyet and Sunderland’s sporting director, Lee Congerton, are currently reshaping the squad at the Stadium of Light with the West Brom defender Billy Jones and Wigan midfielder Jordi Gomez already on board following the departures of Phil Bardsley and Craig Gardner. In addition, Sebastian Larsson has agreed a new three-year contract. But his fellow midfielder Jack Colback’s future remains uncertain with Newcastle United among his suitors.
 
Bye bye bony

Bony is ready to shine for the Ivory Coast in Brazil after his 25-goal season with the Swans made him one of the most talked-about players in this summer's transfer window.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, West Ham and Newcastle are among the Premier League clubs to be linked with him while overseas outfits including German giants Borussia Dortmund are also thought to be interested in the powerhouse 25-year-old.

But the Swans have long maintained that they want to hold onto the striker they signed for a record £12m from Vitesse Arnhem a year ago, slapping a minimum £25m price tag on his head.
 
Signing on fee etc, bigger wages etc. He's miles off Liverpool and arsenal class.

He is still under contract with Swansea so you will have to persuade them to end that contract. They will require a fee for that and my guess is that £4m wont cut it.
 
Swansea City's first trophy was the Welsh Cup, which they won as Swansea Town in 1913. Their first league honour came in 1925, when they won the 1924–25
Swansea City's honours include the following:[32]

The Football League

English second tier (currently Football League Championship)
Promoted (1): 1980–81
Play-off winners (1): 2010–11
English third tier (currently Football League One)
Winners (3): 1924–25, 1948–49, 2007–08
Promoted (1): 1978–79
English fourth tier (currently Football League Two)
Winners (1): 1999–2000
Promoted (3): 1969–70, 1977–78, 2004–05
Play-off winners (1): 1987–88
Domestic Cup Competition

Football League Cup
Winners (1): 2012–13
FA Cup
Semi-finalists (2): 1925–26, 1963–64
Football League Trophy
Winners (2): 1993–94, 2005–06
Welsh Cup
Winners (10): 1912–13, 1931–32, 1949–50, 1960–61, 1965–66, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1988–89, 1990–91
Runners-up (8): 1914–15, 1925–26, 1937–38, 1939–40, 1948–49, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1968–69
FAW Premier Cup
Winners (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
Runners-up (2): 2000–01, 2001–02

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The following are the honours Sunderland have achieved since their foundation in 1879.[153][154][155]

League
First Division: 6 (level 1)
1891–92, 1892–93, 1894–95, 1901–02, 1912–13, 1935–36
Runners-up (5): 1893–94, 1897–98, 1900–01, 1922–23, 1934–35
Second Division/First Division/Championship: 5 (level 2)
1975–76, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2004–05, 2006–07
Runners-up (2): 1963–64, 1979–80
Promotion (1): 1989–90
Third Division: 1 (level 3)
1987–88
Cup
FA Cup: 2
1937, 1973
Runners-up (2): 1913, 1992
League Cup
Runners-up (2): 1985, 2014
Charity Shield: 1
1936
Runners-up (1): 1937
Sheriff of London Charity Shield: 1
1903
Football League War Cup
Runners-up (1): 1942
Other
BBC Sports Personality Team of the Year Award: 1
1973
Football World Championship: 1
1895

You napkin
 
He is still under contract with Swansea so you will have to persuade them to end that contract. They will require a fee for that and my guess is that £4m wont cut it.

And?

You asked why would he want to come here. That is the answer. Would Swansea risk a player that doesn't want to be there and would then leave for free? I doubt it.
 
I don't think £4m will be enough to interest Jenkins looking up from his word search puzzle book to be honest. Also I can't see why Ash would want to go to Sunderland.. I could understand a move to Arsenal or Liverpool but not Sunderland.

That's a fair point, to be honest neutrally I wouldn't see us as a more attractive proposition than Swansea at this moment in time.

But if Gus is able to sell his ambitions and his vision for the club as well as offering Williams a wage rise, who knows
 
And?

You asked why would he want to come here. That is the answer. Would Swansea risk a player that doesn't want to be there and would then leave for free? I doubt it.

Swansea certainly have the money, so why not let him ride out his contract?
 
Swansea certainly have the money, so why not let him ride out his contract?

I can understand where you're coming from, but at the same time I do think any team that isn't a top 7 can afford write off £4m. Whether it's used to sign a new player, or contribute to a bigger signing, £4m can be quite significant. Especially if Williams wants out, I think you'd accept a £4m bid. I am just working on assumptions though, you would obviously have a better idea of how Swansea operates than any of us
 
Swansea certainly have the money, so why not let him ride out his contract?

Good business that. Keeping a player that wants away, won't sign a new contract etc. Won't be as committed and will leave for free. You lose out on a place in the squad, squander money on wages for a disruptive influence. But hey if a club has the money...
 
Sunderland have offered Swansea City £4 million for Ashley Williams, the influential Wales defender, who has rejected an offer to remain at the Liberty Stadium when his contract expires at the end of next season.

Williams officially informed the Welsh club this week that he will no renew terms and he is understood to favour a fresh challenge in the Barclays Premier League.

The 29-year-old centre half, who has been capped 45 times by his country, is admired by Gustavo Poyet, Sunderland’s head coach, and Lee Congerton, the sporting director, for his defensive capabilities and powerful leadership credentials.







From The Times
 
I feel slightly insulted that you got me mixed up with Daiswan <yikes><laugh>

My point is that Swansea are sitting pretty with plenty of cash in the bank so they have no need to sell to the first and lowest bidder..
I think all this paper talk about Williams is being mostly manufactured by his agent to force Swansea to pen a more lucrative contract. BTW negotiations are still very much ongoing between the Club and Ashley's people (Ashley himself is sunning it in the Algarve)
 
Ash would never go to a team that is relegation fodder every season just like ash young wouldn't....yesterday he was suppose to be at qpr having a medical....the guy is on the beach pissing himself laughing..<laugh>

Good luck with Gary Monk at the helm next season mate...lol, Gary ****ing Monk man
 
I feel slightly insulted that you got me mixed up with Daiswan <yikes><laugh>

My point is that Swansea are sitting pretty with plenty of cash in the bank so they have no need to sell to the first and lowest bidder..
I think all this paper talk about Williams is being mostly manufactured by his agent to force Swansea to pen a more lucrative contract. BTW negotiations are still very much ongoing between the Club and Ashley's people (Ashley himself is sunning it in the Algarve)

The Times are quite respectable and they seem to think Williams has told Swansea he wants out

Well, as I've said, only time will tell. Hope we get him

Good luck for the summer <ok>