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Off Topic Ashley Madison-Time to worry

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  1. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Hackers of this variety are usually trying to take a moral stand of some sort so adding a load of random email addresses to bulk out the dump wouldn't seem to fit with the purpose of hacking the site. I'm not saying hackers are a beacon of morality but in cases like this they usually think they are doing what's right. What's the motivation for bulking out the dump?
     
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  2. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Intruding into other's peoples privacy?. They also have skeletons in their cupboard.:laugh:
     
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    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say they are right, I said it's likely they perceive themselves as holding the moral high ground. They think they are doing the right thing.
     
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  4. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    They think clarifies it. I know what you meant.
     
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    I would be suspicious of the fact there are .gov email addressed in there. I find it hard to imagine people working for the government using their work email addresses for this site given they almost always have your name in the email address.

    The hack was a criminal act even though there is a lot of puritanical glee over it.
    I do agree with the hack in terms of the lies the site owners were telling their customers, most of that data is meant to have been deleted and customers had to pay to get it deleted.

    Data dumps are dodgy and are open to tampering once they are "out there" hosted on a server. New data can be appended easily.

    in short there is no real way to verify which is Ashley Madison data and which is pollution of the dump.
    The integrity of the hackers itself throws doubt on the data imo.
     
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  6. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    I bet the hackers had S.Os who had used the site.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    I doubt it. They have emails. Internal files. Photos, etc. They somehow got a hold of administrative accounts and inside acess. Idiots probably had one master account that had admin right over everything.

    The fact that you could log in without c.c using invalidated email addresses would naturally account for many more email addresses than c.cs.


    Anyone who hadn't signed up (someone else used their email) would have been receiving bacon emails from that site all along.

    That SNP lady either signed up OR didn't but has been receiving bacon from them since the time someone else signed her up. No chance this is first she heard.
     
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    I don't doubt it, like I said, using an email address name.name or the like for an adultery site is not something one does.

    Also, if someone can get access to a "secured" site and get into their DB. Then someone can get into the site hosting the dump obviously.

    Either way doubt is not a factor, there is not really any way of verifying the entire dump is legit unless you cross reference it with the Ashley Madison DB contents. Let me know how you get on <laugh>

    As for bacon, those usually get spam filtered especially if the owner of the email address marks them as such in corps or gov email systems
     
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    I don't believe the SNP lady though, because if honest she'd be "like wtf" "i dunno why my email is there" as that would be an honest answer.

    She said it was a smear campaign.. which is cack, she registered ;)
     
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    Bastards, I've got 58 accounts on there and not one of them leaked...
    What's a man to do in order to be controversial!
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Dubious???.
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Yeah sure. Your rep has taken a blow now Johnny we now know that you're some sort of faithful type person.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    This hack got a whole lot less amusing.

    2 unconfirmed suicides in Toronto have been linked to this data breach. There may be others in other cities. Sad.
     
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    Is 2 people out of 33 million leaked names even statistically relevant i.e. if you pick 33 million people not in a happy relationship what are the chances a couple of them will commit suicide over the next week?

    Is there any direct link?
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    They haven't given any details yet so hard to tell how much of an impact it had on their decisions to kill themselves. May be minor it may be major.

    If the hack made one person kill themselves that wouldn't have then that is tragic enough. I don't think we can say it it really did push someone over the edge that wouldn't have.



    Not that it makes much difference in order of magnitude but there are 30mill plus lines of data. Not 30 million people. There may only be 15million unique people on the list.
     
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    There are 33m leaked accounts.

    Canada has a population about 35m and a suicide rate of 5-6 per week.

    So statistically 2 suicides per week is significantly below average, suggesting a lot of "happy cheaters" or #fake accounts.
     
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  19. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    2 in one city. Not 2 in the country. Lots of people had multiple accounts (or counted double for multiple credit cards) so not 33mil unique users. Of those unique users not all may still be alive. Some accounts are probably fake.

    33 mill accounts probably equates to 15mill unique users or less (complete guess from my anus). So 2 from one city would certainly be above average for Canada.
     
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    I was taking the 33m accounts (15m users) to be a "country" with the same approximate suicide rate as Canada
     
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