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  1. junction8spurs

    junction8spurs Active Member

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    To be honest, the Broad decision is one of a few shockers by the umpires in this test.
    Agar should of been given out stumped
    Trott should not of been given
    And Broads was the worst one so far.

    Credit to the Aussies, their reaction then and since has been spot on.
     
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  2. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    I see, as bad as the press make out? I keep hearing "breach of gamesmanship" <doh>
     
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  3. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    It was absolutely blatant. If Agar had been given stumped as he should have, we'd be out of sight now (400+ lead). So I hope Stuart Broad gets another 50 today!
     
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    They wasted their appeals frivolously so I have little sympathy. I like it as it's turned out though, there have been a couple of border line decisions go the wrong way and just the one howler which has given us plenty of talking points but not to the extent that it's a farce. The most interesting thing is the definite split between fans and pundits, regardless of who they support, on whether Broad should walk. I think he should but it's moved beyond that point now, too many won't walk so maybe they it should just be forgotten about.
     
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  5. junction8spurs

    junction8spurs Active Member

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    YV
    They did waste their appeals but I was on about their attitude after Broads catch, how they didn't create a fuss but just got on with the game.

    I also thought that the Trott LBW was a shocking decision and not borderline. Agar's stumping was out but can understand why the 3rd umpire didn't give it.
     
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  6. Chelsea Pensioner

    Chelsea Pensioner Well-Known Member

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    No video umpire on earth could give Agar out stumped, impossible to tell despite 20 slomo replays, so benefit of the doubt has to be given. Despite no side on shot of Trott, no sign of a hot spot from the 2 front on cameras, so OUT according to ICC rules.
    It's the rules that need changing, especially when an umpire as incompetent as the one here is officiating. He has plenty of previous, especially against away teams. Pietersen is kidding himself if he thinks Dar is respected, and why is he making comments anyway, he should be back in Johannesberg where he belongs after the way he shafted his team mates. At least Warney called Dar a dunce, cause that's how the Aussies see him.
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    The technology failed in Trott's one though, didn't it? To be honest at the time that I was watching no one seemed aware of the camera angles available not being right so it seemed like a reasonable decison.

    I wasn't disagreeing with you on Broad's edge, I was just saying that even though it was a bad call they have themselves to blame too. They didn't sulk and moan about it though, as you say, which was good to see. If it was football you'd have had SAF out after the game calling for the ref's head after a bad decision so it's nice to see.



    It's looking finely poised again now.
     
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  8. CFC: Champs £launderx17

    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Hopefully get two or three out before stumps
     
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  9. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    Can't say that after that game in Brazil!
     
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  10. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    Woops! :emoticon-0111-blush
     
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  11. junction8spurs

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    Set up nice for tomorrow.
    I make us slight favourites but the Aussie tail have all scored decent runs in test cricket so it's far from over.
     
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  12. bluemoon2

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    That little laddie of a tail-ender seems to be the problem! We cant afford to let him have a repeat performance!
     
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  13. Chelsea Pensioner

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    First blood to England, and sympathies to Broad for the incredible error of judgement that will forever tarnish his reputation. How ironic that the runs gifted to him by Dar did the trick.
    Hope the ICC send DAR back to Pakistan on a one way ticket.
    Tough way to lose a great Test match, looking forward to the next one, hopefully with 2 decent umpires, not just one, and someone in control of the video replays who knows how the equipment works.
     
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  14. bluemoon2

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    I was hoping this was going to conclude before lunch, as the Mrs and I had to get to a big family barbie! As it was I had to rely on the news from my sons iphone! Great barbie (too hot though) ...and a good result! <ok>
     
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  15. CFC: Champs £launderx17

    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Got double barbie this weekend; think the Ipad is going to get a lot of attention!
     
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  16. bluemoon2

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    Poor old Kevin Peterson's looked a bit out of sorts in this game so far!
     
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  17. bluemoon2

    bluemoon2 Well-Known Member

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    Just discovered he'll be out for the rest of the test due to a calf injury! That explains things!
     
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  18. CFC: Champs £launderx17

    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Could be out for 3rd test too
     
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  19. Chelsea Pensioner

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    DRS has been a complete disaster for Australia.They didn't use it as they need to in the first Test, but in this one some truly horrendous calls have gone against us. No difference in the result, but how can we expect to improve when such terrible decisions keep going against us? 1st Test gifted to England by Dar and the non walker, 2nd Test Bel caught, not given, add another 70 runs ! Rogers out LBW to a ball a foot above stumps , Haddin out to a ball not hitting stumps, Agar out to a ball he didnt hit.
    Third umpires absolutely hopeless in both Tests.
    More bad decisions with DRS than without it. Bet we won't see it in Tests in OZ.
     
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  20. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    Without DRS all those decisions would have stayed the same, apart from Agar. And that one had noise to suggest it was a nick
     
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