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Article: Why won't Wenger buy players? | Football, Arsenal

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by theHotHead, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    D'Jeezus MackAroni


    Actually yes!!

    Surely that's a better plan than signing your 4th or 5th choice because the others were more expensive.

    We had a bid for Jagielka rejected last Summer and who did we get instead??..Yes that's right Squillaci!!


    Paying the extra 2-3 Million is normally worth it.
     
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  2. That's one thing I really don't understand about this club and it's purchasing policies. Despite the announcement that the funds are available, the management continues to penny pinch. Sure they will all know of the saying that if you pay peanuts you get........... yeah!!!



    Why pay a bit less and risk not getting the job done? Simply amazing so I will join Mr Fiberglass in asking that Arsene look to his future if not enough is done for the coming season. Actually I will also ask that Ivan Gazidis and Pat Rice join him. Then it would be a good time to call for the return of David Dein ( if this is still possible ), Patrick Viera or Dennis Bergkamp.
     
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  3. robin_van_ fiberglass

    robin_van_ fiberglass Active Member

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    Don't know about Bergkamp and Viera returning, great players don't always make great coaches.
     
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  4. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Id want Pep Guardiola to take over Arsenal. Its an exciting project here are Arsenal , with sold foundations laid. We just need a manager to take it forward. Wenger seems to have lost his edge.
     
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  5. I agree that Arsene may well have reached the peak of his prowess. Certainly the insistence of maintaining this youth policy above everything and in the face of everything makes for an intransigence that has not been good for the club. The flaws in the team have been very clear for the past two seasons at least and it is highly surprising that the manager has no solution in mind. Even more glaring was the seeming inability to stem the flow of bad results over a period when we should have been trying to make as many gains as was possible. It may not always be down to him that the players do not get a desired result but it is his responsibility though to make changes when necessary and his reluctance at this added to our woes of yesteryear. What lessons will have been learned by the start of the season I wonder?
     
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  6. What would your choices be Mr Fiber?

    I was referring to coaching staff as opposed to manager... just clarifying so we are on the same page. As far as a manager is concerned Pep Guardiola sounds a good proposition if we should ever be so fortunate.
     
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  7. TheBear

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    Of Course Pep is probably the best manager on the planet right now. His teams are winning and playing amazing football. He has however an incredible squad to work with.


    I do still believe Wenger has the ability to be as good as anyone on the planet but he would have to cast aside his ethical semi-socialist economic 'masterplan'.
    (The old Wenger was all about scouting and buying players who have yet to reach their potential.)
     
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  8. Killa_Kam

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    What's that got to with anything?<doh> are you one, you always go on about it<laugh>
     
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  9. theHotHead

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    Dude, WTF are you talking about ?? Did you even read my article ??

    Firstly, buying players just before the start of the season is stupid, that doesn't give the player any time to acclimatise to the new team and/or league ! Why wait until the season starts to buy ???

    Secondly, how comes other teams serious about winning things have bought players with seemingly minimal fuss ?? Wenger is making problems. £10m for Jagielka is a mickey take, it's no wonder everything takes ages when he is concerned.
     
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  10. theHotHead

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    Because year after year we make the same mistakes and are not learning. Wenger seems content with the squad, a squad of chokers, a squad that only fight when the chips are down. We have the same deficiencies we've had for years but they are never addressed. Yet the board think it is right to raise ticket prices at a club that already has the highest ticket prices in the league and refuse to invest in quality players.

    Why should we as fans stand for it ?? I am not a sheep and I certainly won't do as the board want me to do - suffer in silence.
     
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  11. theHotHead

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    Poppycock !!

    Anyone with half a football brain could score goals if played in an offensive position, in that Arsenal team, with Fabregas and co supplying the ammunition. Any decent semi pro footballer could score those goals and anyone who has played football to a decent level knows this.
     
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  12. Killa_Kam

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    You don't have any money guys, can't pay top wages or top transfer fees.
     
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  13. If ever there was a time for Arsene and the board to signal their intent, it is now. All the talk of money being available and problems identified have to yield solutions. If these are not forthcoming then nothing will change this year, before the end of which the public who buy these newly-priced tickets will be calling for change.

    The press have not helped in coming up with one story after another, most of which have no basis but the needs of our club are clear and of they are not met, there will be only one outcome. It would be sad but really it is up to Arsene as to how he would like his time at Arsenal to be appraised.
     
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  14. theHotHead

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    D'Jeezus MackAroni - what money did Wenger bid for Samba ? Remember Schwarzer ?? He allegedly offered £2m but Fulham wanted £4m.

    Penny pinching.

    But he happily spends £10m on relatively unknown Koscielny who only played one season in the French top flight. He's a joke.
     
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  15. Killa_Kam

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    That's bull, there is no money at Arsenal, lol, anyone with half a brain cell realizes this, it's been six years since you won anything, you don't think in six years they would have actually invested in the team properly.
     
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  16. Well the developments at Highbury have been sold so that has brought in a pretty penny and income at the gates and merchandising sales have been good AFAIK. The problem of lack of investment is the management's view of a sustainable business model. That is the reason for the lack of investment at Arsenal. Sure the club could have gone into debt with purchases and salaries and perhaps that may have worked but as it is this is the approach they have taken and this is fact, the quest for a sustainable business model. In terms of salaries, Arsenal's payroll is the 3rd highest of all the PL clubs so it's not quite the lack of money but the management of it.


    BTW a little politeness on your part would be appreciated.... by everyone
     
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  17. Killa_Kam

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    Clearly that model has not worked.
     
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  18. Which is part of the continuing debate on these boards .......
     
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  19. theHotHead

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    Lexx Rexx - what are you talking about ?? Of course there is money. Our stadium debt was circa £100m last I saw around 1 year ago and the board have said on numerous occasions there is money to spend .. but Wenger with his stubborness refuses to spend it.

    Remember the season Spurs were pushing us for 4th place and in the winter transfer window the board sanctioned the £16m purchase of Arshavin ? If the manager needs it the money is there. We are in a good financial position regarding our stadium debt because of Wenger's frugality admittedly, but now we need to spend to remain competitive.
     
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  20. Killa_Kam

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    There is no money, where are the quality player recruitment investment? don't exist. 16million is nothing in toady's football/transfer fees. Most top players average 30million in terms of transfer fee. The money is there<laugh> you keep believing that<ok>
     
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