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  1. NSIS

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  2. Wandering Yid

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    Also 5 million for O'Hara, which was probably the right choice although he is a good player
     
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    Had Harry had the resources at his disposal, that Dalglish had at Blacburn, he would have done equally as well. Since those days, I repeat Dalglish has achieved sweet F.A.
    You don't have to know Abramovich personally, or need a pipe and deerstalker, to see that he runs, and I'll be generous here, your club "autocratically"
    Harry has done a pretty good job at Spurs, IMO. Given the sort of resources other managers have, he would do even better. I agree Harry and Dalglish should not be mentioned in the same breath. - Harry is a far better manager.
     
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  4. Chirpy rides again

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    I'm with Spurf. Yes Liverpool have strengthened, but from where they were, they had to. The goons even with their new buys are still without a real leader and have not really replaced their much-discussed departures. The Mancs (both) were always going to be out of site at present. As for Chelsea, they are third at best, even with their new signings.

    We have added steel and leadership in Parker, a reliable pair of hands between the sticks and potentially a striker who can play up front on his own. Also our young players are like new signings and a (hopefully) motivated Modric is a good thing to have. I think a tough battle with the goons and Scousers for 4th, but not an unwinnable one.
     
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    Dalglish hasn't managed for years you plonker. It's like saying 'zidaine's achieved nothing since retiring from football'. As for Harry, I don't rate his tactics (see your man city rape, practically the same city we brushed aside 3 nil last season) and I think his man management is poor (ie the state your dressing room is in now and the way Crouch was bundled out the door of his beloved club). As for him as a person, he's the biggest hypocrite ever 'chelsea tapped up modric bla bla' then goes and says how he'd love to sign Parker and unsettled him so he requests a transfer. Kenny would NEVER do that, he has way more class than Harry will ever have. End of.
     
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    So what has King Kenny achieved then, As I said sweet F.A. and because he hasn't worked, that automatically makes him a better manager than Harry - what a load of bollocks.
    If you want to talk about last seasons results, I seem to remember a certain club, managed by Redknapp, brushed you aside - on your own ground, only a short while ago. So, if you want to use that as a yardstick, where does that put you???.....Talk about selective memory
     
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  7. NotSoMightyEastbourneBoro

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    I think it has been a very sensible window. Due to the wage issues the likes of Rossi, Falcoa, Forlan, Eto, etc..... were never realistic targets. Anybody we looked to buy in should have been an improvement on what we already had. We couldn't afford those improvements as the wages have been inflated by the sugar daddy owners of a number of clubs. So what was the point of buying anybody? I believe Levy has reigned in 'Arry's usual excesses to the benefit of the club. We have some cracking youth here and a solid spine. Sure we are weak-ish in attack and the injury worries of our centre backs is nothing new but I'm happy. We won't challenge for the title but neither will we throw good money away........ £16million for Bentley! For the love of god why didn't we keep the receipt!
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    We got him from Blackburn.
    What would they pay us back in?
    Chicken?

    [video=youtube;IYwf2SBWa5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwf2SBWa5o[/video]

    Sorry, but it still makes me laugh!
     
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    Harry is a poor manager that has never achieved anything at any level bar a fluke FA Cup that was made from possibly the most expensively assembled squad in Portsmouth's history and probably up in the cup's history as well.

    To say Harry is a better manager than Kenny just seems bizarre, Dalglish has achieved more than Harry during their long managerial careers.

    Harry has a history of underachieving at every club he's been at and that has continued here. Put it this way if Dalglish were manager of Spurs, Spurs would have made top 4 last season. In contrast if Harry was manager at Liverpool they would have been lucky to make top half.

    Harry wouldn't even make it as the top 10 managers in the PL to my mind.
     
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    You do talk some rubbish, DL.

    Underachieved by getting Portsmouth to the Premier League and winning a trophy?
    Underachieved by getting West Ham to the Premier League, bringing through their so-called Golden Generation and finishing 5th, taking them to Europe?
    Underachieved by taking Spurs to the Champions League?

    Dalglish has done well.
    He's been out of the game for some time, though.
     
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    I think that Coulibaly will play in the first team at some stage this season, along with further appearances for Tom Carroll. He looked very confident against Hearts and I think he has a great future.
     
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    Spot on about Carroll, PTP.
    He needs to take a good look at how Modric deals with the more physical side of the game, but he appears to have a lot of talent.
     
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    He got Portsmouth to the Premier League because Milan Mandaric was willing to spend whatever it took and pay over the odds for players. Given the money they had when Gaydamak took over and the players he had available to him, in 07/08 they should have ended it up with not just a cup, but a top 6 finish.

    Tony Carr was the one that brought through and developed the Golden Generation not Redknapp. West Ham could and should have been challenging for the title with the squad they, this is a team that under his tenure had 3 away wins all season, if they'd won as many games as the team that finished directly above them (Villa) they would have finished 3rd in the league.

    West Ham could and should have done a lot better than they did under him, same with Spurs. Spurs could and should have finished 3rd the last two seasons, but they have finished 4th and 5th respectively.

    His reluctance to drop players like Gomes, Crouch and Dawson is what always has and always will cost you IMO <ok>
     
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    In Europe, perhaps, or in the domestic cups - in the league not a hope, more chance of us putting two goalkeeprers on the bench again...
     
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    West Ham should've challenged for the title?!
    Don't be ridiculous.

    Tony Carr's been at West Ham for a long time.
    Why has Redknapp been the only manager to bring through so many players in that time?
    Happy coincidence?

    This is going way, way off-topic, anyway.
     
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    Dalglish certainly wouldn't - what exactly, is it that he has achieved??? Apart from deserting two clubs, including his beloved Liverpool.
    So Liverpool would have been lucky to make the top half with Harry as manager. Funny how he's taken "a worse team" - according to you - and finished 4th & 5th in consecutive seasons, then!!
    As PNP SAYS, you spout so much bollocks that it's difficult to know where to begin. I'd call it Wumming, unless you really are that stupid and deluded.
     
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    NowsufferinginSpain - Also you have to bear in mind when Kenny was made player manager the successful team he inherited had been together a fair while. Sure, he added a sprinkling of new talent over the years which prolonged their success to a degree, they never got back to the heights the inherited team had achieved (hard ask I know but once you are at the top it is easier to stay at the top).
     
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    Well refuted, Ensil.
    When you consider that Glen Johnson (£17.5m), Lassana Diarra (£20m) and Sulley Muntari (£12.5m) were actually sold for more than it cost to put the team together, then it's clear where the fault lies.

    I'm sure Dalglish would be able to walk into the Scotland job though, to be fair.
     
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    It doesn't matter how expensively assembled our squad is/was. That is a separate and irrelevant argument. At the Semi final stage, Portsmouth's squad was far larger and more expensively assembled. In terms of talent Portsmouth should have achieved more than what they did, that is irrefutable.

    So what if Redknapp is considered for the England Job? Sven and Mclaren were actually in an England job and they are managing Championship clubs now <doh>
     
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    If he did, it would only be because nobody else wanted the poison chalice.
     
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