I've always rated Wenger as a manager but he does seem to have lost the plot now. If he takes his current mix of unproven youngsters and has-beens into the top four, I will take my hat off to him (and eat it too). My joint Arsenal/Spurs selection has 7 Spurs players and 4 Arsenal players, which is the same as the Premier points in head-to-heads over the last two seasons, so I don't think I'm being overly biased.
power- wenger has just been given the dreaded vote of confidence by the board. Basically saying go and buy the player you need and if by the new year there is little improvement then we will look at it again. whereas Harry knows unless something unusual happens he is safe, with the proviso that the team is performing to an acceptable level.
Dalglish and Wenger have both managed big clubs and led them to Premier League titles for starters. Dalglish has advantage because he knows Liverpool inside out and is a club legend therefore he instantly has the backing of everyone at the club, from the fans to the players to the board. Wenger has been at the club for 15 years now and knows the club inside out as well, he has delivered near enough every year at Arsenal and up until recently had the 100% backing of all the fans, board, players etc. Harry is a tactically poor manager that has underachieved throughout his time in English Football given the resources he has had available to him. He is an Arsenal fan with a soft spot for West Ham and has been very vocal about his dislike of sections of the Spurs support. I disagree that Arsenal don't possess any quality, I believe Wilshere and moreso Ramsey can fill the void that Fabregas and Nasri have left. They will never be as good as the latter IMO but can still do a job. Arteta and Benayoun (although panic buys IMO) possess huge quality and have plenty of experience which will help the younger players. Liverpool may not have made any big name signings but as long as they fit into the Liverpool way of playing it shouldn't matter, look at United, what big name signings did they make that would send shockwaves around Europe? The best players don't always make the best teams. I honestly believe that man for man Real Madrid are better than Barcelona and that Manchester City are better than Manchester United but players of the latter clubs have been playing with each other for years and have a strong mentality and a certain way of playing. Bale is a good player, but Downing is far more consistent and has a better footballing brain. Lennon is a better player they Kuyt, but Kuyt is far more consistent and has a better footballing brain. Modric, King, BAE, Parker and Sandro aside all of the other players are inconsistent and you don't know what you will get. It's just my opinion, just because you disagree it doesn't make it Wummery I have no reason to be biased towards Liverpool or Arsenal, this would be different if we were talking about AFC Wimbledon or Fulham for arguments sake
Please leave AFC Wimbledon and Fulham out of this DL it's not relevant. Those clubs are well run and are happy to have achieved what they have. I personally have no issues with you but some of my fellow Spurs fans do.
Yet more opinionated bollocks. Dalglish has done nothing for 20 years managerially. He may have been a legend as a player, that doesn't make him a managerial legend. Wilshere MAY develop into a good player if Wenger can keep him out of Jail. Ramsey is O.k., nothing more. Bale is 10 times the player Downing is. I've never rated him. Far too predictable, and easy to curb. We are two games into a new season. Liverpool have started reasonably well, but as I said they've played nobody of note. Arsenal are one point ahead of us, having played a game more. I'm not absolutely sure we can reclaim 4th spot - a lot will depend on injuries, etc. However, it will be far closer than you would have us believe
Sorry NSIS, we've no hope of getting 4th - our team beyond the first eleven is decidely threadbare and filled with mediocrity still. And not only have we still got players that are not going to get a game in the league this season (GDS - still TBC on the site for a squad no.) we've added new ones that won't get in either (Failque, Ceballos, Coulibaly) Although I'm less worried about 4th than 18th to be honest
Depends how you define well run but fair enough Dalglish has the experience of winning the Premier League though, he is a winner as a player as a manager and players will respect him because of that Bale could be 10 times the player Downing is, without doubt but at the moment Downing is the better player. Bale is way too inconsistent and hasn't played well since 2010, he has been sussed out and needs to add more to his game, unlike Downing he has time on his side, his quality is irrefutable. I've said several times, it doesn't matter who you play, points are just points. It doesn't matter whether you take 3 points off Bolton or Man Utd for instance. Liverpool are more than capable of beating any team on their day as are Arsenal to a slightly lesser extent, those two teams will take all the beating. I don't see Everton and Villa challenging them for financial reasons, I also believe Stoke and Sunderland aren't on Spurs' level in terms of quality, which means Spurs are the only team that can realistically challenge the might of United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal in the distant future. It will be interesting to see what happens with Adebayor at the end of the season and which strikers Spurs will sign to improve their front line. Injuries are part and parcel. Spurs have a bigger squad than probably anybody else bar United and City so should be able to cope.
I agree with you, but not on your reasons. I think every team bar the top 3 and to a slightly lesser extent Liverpool would struggle without their first XI. Bassong can still do a job IMO and don't forget King (who is the best CB in the league when fit IMO) is in reserve, not to mention G*llas. Kranjcar and Defoe are not bad players to have either, in some areas there is still quality although you are right there are many mediocre players there.
Absolute rubbish, yet again. If we could, I'd put both Downing and Bale up for sale. Who do you think would develop, by far, the most interest, and fetch the far larger fee?? To give you a clue, it wouldn't be Downing. You keep going on about Dalglish winning The Prem. Sure, he did, virtually 20 years ago, with what was then the most expensive squad of players assembled. He has done sweet F.A. since.
We'll have to agree to disagree, mate. We're still a bit short of cover up front. However, apart from that, I think we have a strong squad of good players. If anybody looks a bit threadbare outside of their first choice eleven, it's The Goons. Liverpool aren't exactly packed with options either, although I think Bellamy was a good signing. Surprise, surprise, the WUM agrees with you!
DL - Dalglish may well have experience of winning the PL once...with Jack Walkers money, what happened when the steel business ran short? I think I remember Kenny running away when the going got tough...did it to his lovely Liverpool too. Well done on leaving out these salient points of your description of his managerial prowess...more evidence you know very little about this game.
Bale by far, he has the most potential and larger resale value, and he is a bigger asset to Spurs than Downing is to Liverpool. Not just anyone can win the Prem, anyone can buy individuals but it takes a good manager to mould a team together and pull them in the right direction. Look at Barca in 2008 and then compare them to Barca the following year. People thought Guardiola was close to lunacy when he sold Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto'o, but what he did was actually get rid of the star players and replace them with younger players in the Barca academy that could do a job. A very similar thing happened with United. Ronaldo, Tevez, Van Der Saar and Scholes have all left United recently but been replaced with younger players that have come though the club i.e Welbeck, Cleverley and then of course the purchased players i.e Young, Nani, Anderson etc. I don't mean to blabber on I'm just trying to demonstrate as to how good managers can mould a team, in terms of individual ability I personally don't think this United or Liverpool team has a patch on those of the past but I believe they have more balance. In contrast with Chelsea I believe in terms of individuals we have more talented players than we did in 2005 but we now have far less balance. See above
I was worried about the striker situation before the TDD now it seems we only have 3 main strikers left,i,m pleased Crouch has gone,but do feel abit sorry for him as he did want to play for us.Where does Dos Santos fit in. TBC (Tottenham Hotspur.com) Giovani Dos Santos Also i think the Cahill signing became harder after Bolton asked for Defoe for obvious reasons, i´m sure we must have had a striker in mind but this hasn´t happened so maybe DS will be given another chance.
I was disappointed to see Crouch go at first because as somebody earlier said, he's been behind some of our best moments over the last 2 years (Young Boys, Man City, AC Milan etc...) and i wanted Pav out the door first. I still stick by my opinion that Pav should've been number 1 priority to go but at least it means our midfield and defence will stop taking the easy option of lumping to Crouch (and if they do Adebayor is a better player in this role). I think we have a strong squad still on the whole and have retained all the important players from the last 2 seasons, showing we have ambition. Purchasing endless names is vanity and can sometimes be a short term fix for a problem that isn't there. Another CB would have been great, but on the whole, I can;t complain.
Well, as much as "King Kenny" might like to think that he's Alec Ferguson, he's not even in the same galaxy. Fergie is one of the best, shrewdest, managers of all time. Your megalomaniac owner sacked the best manager you ever had. This new guy might like to think he's Mourinho - but I haven't seen too much evidence of it, so far. Redknapp may not be one of the greats managerially, but Dalglish has hardly covered himself in glory at the job. Nor do I expect that to change in his second stint at Liverpool.
Not so bad on here but some of the criticism I've seen of Levy elsewhere has been ludicrous. I feel we've done excellent business this window The clearout of fringe players who've done little more than eat up our finances has alleviated one of the problems holding us back. By easing the pressure on the wage bill we can be more competitive in the next window in which Cahill should be available for near half the price. If Spurs are prepared to wait then we can even reach a precontract agreement for nothing. I expect other clubs to become interested but having freed up finances this window we should be able to offer a better deal to him. We already have 4 central defenders which is competition enough and remember a Caulker will be coming back to us next summer. Our squad has gone from bloated to a healthy size. The only disappointment for me was not being able to achieve sales for Bentley & Jenas but if there are no takers I can't blame the chairman. The sale of Crouch for 10-12 million feels like daylight robbery while we got a nice sum for Palacios so income was very reasonable for one window. I've got no complaints with how it panned out.
Chequebook Ken doesn't come close to SAF IMO but he is a better manager than you give him credit for. You don't know anything about our owner (nor do I) so to talk about his personality seems rather odd. Nobody at the club has ever looked to compare AVB with Mourinho. I loved Mourinho but as good as he was he was also destructive at times and began to have a frosty relationship with some of the players and of course our owner. Redknapp shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as managers that have achieved something IMO like Dalglish let alone managerial greats like SAF.
