Article: Cheick Tiote to leave? | Football, Newcastle

I dont think Arsenal actively look to sell their players, or have a policy to sell to the highest bidder if possible, or give contracts for the sake of increasing transfer fees.....so no I dont class them as a selling club. They tried there upmost to keep Fabregas for eg.

 

just wenger said he feared they will continue to be a feeder club to richer clubs until the fair play ruling kicks in.funny that

 

Ok, I understand what you are saying. But let me give the ultimate point - its the attitude of the club that defines it as a selling club or not.

For eg Arsenal football club would have had Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri play their whole careers out with Arsenal given the choice.
Where as NUFC (Mike Ashley) would love to have Tiote join Arsenal for a substantial fee.

The fact Arsenal cant hold onto their players due to player power or every player has his fee, is actually irrelevant.

Its the mentality and attitude of the club that defines it.

 

Man U also have Fletcher and Carrick, if they were to sign a midfielder (which Fergie has said they wont), they'd be looking for someone to fill the void that Scholes has left, which isnt Tiote's game.
Totally agree with you about Arsenal, infact the only person who doesnt is the only one that matters - Arsene. They'll be after someone to replace Cesc now, and that's not tiote's game.
Chelsea, they've got plenty in DM even with Essien injured, and it was apparent v Stoke that they don't have a CM to link play between midfield and attack, which Torres needs to play at his best (hence they're constantly linked with Modric), so they'll be looking for someone to do that, which isnt Tiote's game.

 

We would've kept the 3 that've left if:
A)They hadn't wanted to leave
B)They'd excepted reasonable wage demands

 

get your point but you could argue that 3 of our "star" players have left due to greed but this could go on all night personally i like holystones definition of it all on the other thread

 

A)We wanted to get Enrique signed up to a new deal to get his value up to where it should be, ala Tiote. Nolan didnt want to leave.
B)It was the length of the contact why Nolan left, not the wages. They wanted to sell him otherwise just give him a contract.
Carroll's demands weren't exactly outrageous given the fact he was suddenly worth £35mil and £80k a week.....but I am not startin this debate again.

Also the reason Enrique wanted to leave is because he saw what we were doing selling Carroll and Nolan and could see we are a selling club so he wanted off.

 

3 star players leaving:

JE - lack of ambition from the club. Seeing best players sold. Could have signed a 'big' contract apparently.
KN - wanted to end his career here. Club didnt. Sold him.
AC - Wanted to end his career here. Wanted more money he felt he deserved, yes. Was pushed out the door by MA and DL onto privte chopper to make sure deal they wanted all along went through. If given the choice would have signed for NUFC for the rest of his career. Albeit on what a £35m player should be on, I even think he would have signed a £50k a week deal if given the chance. But he wasn't. Club wanted the money.

Cud go on all night, so thats me done on it now.

 

Classic response. Debate over.

 

was about the AC comment as i recall you've had enough about debating/mentioning it

<classicdickheadhypocritesmiley>

 

Kevin Nolan wanted a longer contract which the club and most fans believe to have been ridicules.

Jose Enrique said he wanted to join a club in Champions League are Liverpool in it NO. Did they offer more money YES.

 

JE - Offered a 50k a week contract with add ons, turned it down to move to Liverpool. Always told us he wanted to leave.
KN - Wanted a 5 year deal at 50k a week. We didn't want to give a player that old a 5 year deal (Which is understandable), so he went to West Ham for bigger money and 5 years.
AC - Wanted more than 50k a week a few months after signing a 5 and a half year deal. We didn't want to pay over our wage cap, so he handed in a transfer request.

Jose was the only one honest about wanting to leave. As for the other 2, they wanted something unreasonable from the club. Kevin Nolan had lost too much pace and offered nothing apart from goals, which even they lacked when Carroll left. A 5 year deal would have been a stupid thing to give him considering after this season he would be back up at best. Carroll on the other hand wanted 80k a week that Liverpool were reportedly offering him, so he asked the board for a raise, despite signing a new contract a few months earlier, they rightly said no and he put in a transfer request.

With AC and KN you can't hold the club responsible for them leaving, they left because they wanted something they couldn't have at this club. You can't bring Jose into this though because he left for footballing reasons.

 

exactly

 

The fact is if the right price comes in he will be told he is leaving just like Carroll

 

Carroll went to the board demanding 80k a week a few months after signing a new long term deal at 50k. He handed in a transfer request and we held out for a massive sum of money. At what point does that indicate he was told to leave?

 

Correct. Its very simple.

Im glad someone sees it.

 

Well this all goes on which chain of events you believe. Which I have been trying to avoid. Basically:

You believe the contradicting Derek Llambias chain of events, that doesn't really make much sense when you see every quote made on the subject before, during and after. When you witnessed the events happening throughout the day, and even though he is a proven liar.

Where as I and other people, believe the more 'Andy Carroll' version of events, which when you take away any bias or allegiances, makes more sense, would add up given the chain of events of the helicopter, acceptance of the offer, then rejection of the offer, then transfer requested, then accepted again...all when the player was already on his way to Liverpool..........via Mike Ashley's own private chopper.

Do you think Arsenal sent Fabregas over to Barcelona via there own chopper even tho they claim they wanted him to stay....? Would be strange if they did wouldn't it? You would think they would just say, fine if you wanna go then make your own way there.

....but im not getting into this again

Please dont lure me into it....I BEG OF YOU!!!!

 

Who told us that? the club that admits it lies ??? It's not every day a player comes out with "I don't even want to be here when signing"

 

could be said for every club in the world doesn't mean they're a selling club the term selling club means exactly that a club that sells but doesn't buy,saying we are a selling club because we behave like every other football club is ridiculous.Anyone who was a fan during the 80's (beardsley sold to fund a stand,gazza sold and replaced by a youth player in bogie etc.etc.) would know what a selling club was we are a million miles away from that situation.