You make absolutely no sense. You call people 'Allam bum boys' ect for defending them because they're allegedly not going to give us transfer money, but now you're saying that you should question the fact that we have no money to spend and are basically saying that we clearly do have money to spend. Make your mind up.
It is self explanatory, surely even you can understand that? Many people on here state there opinion as unquestionable fact, we may not have money now, however if we sell players, then we generate income to be able to buy players. There will be some player sales, as stated by Adam Pearson recently, what's to say that money isn't used to fund the purchase of Mannone? The Allams have been incredibly generous, if they don't provide funds, then that's no big deal, they did save our club when no one else seemingly would! Providing that revenue generated from player sales, maybe parachute payments. There are loads of players available on free transfers that would improve our squad (see previous lists) I would make signing Mannone a priority, if I was manager, as he's young, he's played a decent number of games for us so we know all about him. He will, in my opinion, go on to become a valuable asset in the future (future potential transfer fee).
We are crying out for another striker. That has to be priority! There are lots of good free keepers around I don't understand why we would spend £1m on one.
I wasn't telling you not to question people's opinions, but what you questioned was barely even a opinion. I think pretty much everyone realises that we're very unlikely to be given a transfer budget by the Allams. And I agree with you to an extent over generating budget from sales - but I wasn't including that over the past couple of comments I've made so I don't see how you've managed to use that as a counter-argument. Either way, I don't think we'll really generate that much from player sales - We'll be happy to see Ghilas and Oli leave on a free if we find suitors, and we'll get, what, £1.2m for McLean and Simpson, if that? Plus there's no guarantee that 100% of the money from sales will go straight into a transfer budget.. My point is that if we can only sign one player for a £1m figure, it shouldn't be Mannone. As far as I know we don't have any potential free strikers lined up, so we're better off saving our money for areas where we CAN'T move in the free transfer market.
Well its interesting that Nick Barmby said to Burnsy after the game that Vito is still his No.1 target. Vito can maybe help engineer a way out of Arsenal if he is that desperate to join us. Arsenal want rid of a few as Wenger re-builds his squad in the summer. Arsenal just see Vito as a sale-able asset and they want as much for Vito as they can get. May i suggest putting him on Ebay then Mr Wenger ? Adam and Nicks meeting with the Allams is scheduled for Tuesday May 1st.
£1m for there 4th choice goalie ? Your aving a gerrraaaffff !!! 300k plus add-ons would be a good deal for all parties,, imo.
Signing Mannone to play instead of Gulacsi didn't make much of a difference to our season did it? I like the guy but a goalie can only have a limited impact. The problems we have with scoring goals must be a priority, if we spend all our budget on Mannone how will we score more goals? The way I see it, Arsenal are being really unfair on the lad. They've got him under contract but don't want him to play for them, for whatever reason, they just don't want him. In that way it's a similar situation to us with Ghilas or Olifinjana. So how can they refuse to let him go for less than £1m? It just doesn't seem right to me. They need to decide if they rate him or not, if they want rid they need to ask for a more sensible fee. You rarely see a club decide they don't rate a player and still get a massive fee for him. Big transfer fees are generally to prise away a player that the selling club still wants. If you think £1m isn't a lot I couldn't disagree more. I can't see our budget being much at all (if anything). Wasn't Craig Gordon the UK's most expensive 'keeper at £9m? So charging us a ninth of the british record for that position is the equivalent of them charging about £5.5m for a reserve striker. (The British record for a striker being Torres at £50m of course) It's a massive fee.
A player's value isn't decided by how far down the pecking order he is, it's about his ability and potential ability. I think too many people are fixated on the fact that we got the likes of Chester for £300k. He was an absolute bargain and we should expect to spend much more on less talented players. Another point worth making - Goalkeepers and strikers are always going to be the most expensive, and £1m in Mannone's case would be well worth it... just not when it would take up our entire budget (if we even have one) Having said that, if Arsenal get no bids by August then we could probably get him for half that price.
The problem is, he's actually worth a million. I see nothing wrong (from our side) with another year long loan perhaps with a option at the end. Other than that lets hope someone can convince Wenger that Manonne isn't that good
I would suggest that it is though. If Vito was that highly regarded by the gunners then he would not be 4th choice. Vito himself said (an OSC night) that he had no future anymore with Arsenal. 300k was an example but that could be a down payment with add-ons subject to what Vito does in the future. Its how many deals are done nowadays.
IMO,, Mr Wenger already thinks that especially after Vito's Greek tragedy game. I agree with you that taking Vito on another season long loan and then buying him from PL money next summer could be put on the table. Adam P. is a good negotiator so lets see whats happens first eh ?
Ok, the pecking order may affect their value slightly, but not to that much of a great extent, especially if Mannone and Wenger aren't at each others throats and both desperate to get rid of each other. Why would Arsenal let him go for peanuts if they think they can get £1m out of him? Maybe we've shown we're a bit too keen on him so they've raised his tag.
I'm not sure we ever found out. In January 2010 he signed a new 'long-term' contract, so it'll be either 2015 or 2016 I imagine.
Now the last bit ^^^ may well be true. But i dont see a massive que though for Vito. If the fee cannot be agreed and Vito really wants to come back to Hull City then i see another season long loan being on. There are a number of quality keepers on free transfers this summer. So why should any club pay more than they have to. ?
Vito's got three years left on his deal at Arsenal, they want £1m for him, they might well get it. They're not obliged to flog him on the cheap just because we don't want to pay what they're asking, if Leicester get offered a couple of million for Schmeichel, then I wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered £1m for Vito.
