Match Day Thread Arsenal v liverpool

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Bit on sky about ‘what’s gone wrong at lfc’. Most of it a load of waffle but one thing was interesting was the average position map comparison between Brighton game and rangers game.

You’d think given we were so dominant that TAA would still be pushed up high. But it’s essentially a back 5 of vvd thiago Hendo Matip TAA. Then a front 5 of tsimikas Diaz Jota junez Salah. Gave us much more stability when they did win the ball and try break/play long ball forward we still had numbers back to win the ball.

If someone can post the pic will make sense.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Bit on sky about ‘what’s gone wrong at lfc’. Most of it a load of waffle but one thing was interesting was the average position map comparison between Brighton game and rangers game.

You’d think given we were so dominant that TAA would still be pushed up high. But it’s essentially a back 5 of vvd thiago Hendo Matip TAA. Then a front 5 of tsimikas Diaz Jota junez Salah. Gave us much more stability when they did win the ball and try break/play long ball forward we still had numbers back to win the ball.

If someone can post the pic will make sense.
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On sky?
There were less gaps between our players so they could support each other.

It was only when milner got on that we really lost shape imo. He was off whereever and gaps opened up
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
On sky?
There were less gaps between our players so they could support each other.

It was only when milner got on that we really lost shape imo. He was off whereever and gaps opened up
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On sky sport website - article about it
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Bit on sky about ‘what’s gone wrong at lfc’. Most of it a load of waffle but one thing was interesting was the average position map comparison between Brighton game and rangers game.

You’d think given we were so dominant that TAA would still be pushed up high. But it’s essentially a back 5 of vvd thiago Hendo Matip TAA. Then a front 5 of tsimikas Diaz Jota junez Salah. Gave us much more stability when they did win the ball and try break/play long ball forward we still had numbers back to win the ball.

If someone can post the pic will make sense.
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jaffaklopp said:
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Again this graphic clearly shows the massive gaps being left behind trent.

Matip is being left a full quarter of the pitch on his own.

Rcm indiscipline and rb indiscipline just going wherever when we have the ball.
 
Think those pictures don’t tell the story
Take Trent as an example only a marginal difference in his average position
 
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The high pressing game works when we have fit young players on top of their game but as the players get older there's more scope for it to fail.we've had a few seasons of playing the high press but now we need a new way or fresher players. Ergo a new style of playing coz we ain't splashing the cash.
 
Bumps said:
Think those pictures don’t tell the story
Take Trent as an example only a marginal difference in his average position
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Yes but it’s not about Trent. It’s about Hendo/thiago. Those two are much deeper so there isn’t a huge gap Between Matip/TAA as Hendo has tucked in.

with 4 up front it means we don’t need midfielders to try push up to be creative so they can sit deeper and allow the 4 forwards and 1 full back to be the main attacking threat.
 
BrunelGunner said:
Alright lads <ok>

In some ways, I'm looking forward to this game and in other ways, I'm not.

On the one hand, we have a horrible record against you since Klopp's arrived. We've beaten you once in the league in 7 years. You've generally beaten us pretty comfortably home and away, especially in the last 2-3 seasons. Wenger struggled against Klopp, as did Emery and Arteta has too. So you clearly have a blueprint of how to play against us.

On the other hand, we have made incremental progress and are starting to play good football with the results to match, so I want to see how much this team has evolved and whether we have the minerals to beat a top side. We beat Spurs, sure, but we generally tend to beat them at home, so I don't really see this as a major feat.

I know you've had a topsy-turvy start to the season, but you've still got a lot of quality players who are perfectly capable of big performances. And your forward line always seem to score against us. So I'm not expecting this to be easy, despite your inconsistency.

I'm hoping we can buck the trend of awful results against you - and that we stop those ****s Jota and Firmino from making our defenders look like children <laugh>

I'm sure it'll be a tasty matchup in any case <ok>
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This Arsenal game has come at the right time. After a bad time in the league, we needed that morale boosting win in the CL albeit against the minnows of Rangers. It’s still a win. Arsenal are at the top but if truth be told they are in a false position. They have only played bottom half and middle league teams and lost when they played a better team in the mancs. No way are they the best team in the league. LFC will have a hard game but we desperately need that win if we have aspirations for the title. This match will be a turning point for us. TAA has to be cautious moving too far forward and Henderson Fab Thiago will need to strangle their midfield. Martinelli will be their key man so will need looking after closely. It would be the right time for Salah to up his game this season.

Tough 1-2 to us. Salah Diaz.
 
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