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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Bucks Blue, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    That would work just as well - unless VDV hates playing midfield more than playing out wide.

    Of course, if we can have VDV replicate Modric's role in midfield, we'd have solved a couple of problems at the same time.
     
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  2. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If AVB plays his favoured 4-3-3 than Hernandez can't play in that. It would be a pointless signing. You'd be better off paying the £11m for Loic Remy
     
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  3. The Serious Guy

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    As opposed to the current selection of... ahem... Defoe...

    And I don't think Remy is genuinely all he's cut out to be, pretty overrated imho.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    He's the focal point of Mexico's 4-3-3, so he can play in that formation.

    At Porto, the front three were Varela - Falcao - Hulk, and it worked very well indeed. If we were to use that system at Spurs (with Hernandez) it would be Bale - Hernandez - Adebayor, which probably would work given Ade drifts out wide a lot anyway and he does get a lot of assists.

    It would fail if Defoe was the focal point, though - he'd be offside all the time...
     
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  5. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    Chelsea boys - Out of interest going back to Mourinho, wasn't RA's purchase of Shevchenko that was the catalyst for his exit, the realisation of not being in full control of transfers?
     
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  6. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    But Mourinho never was in complete control of transfers. He was always a Head Coach not a manager. The relationship was that Mourinho would say who he wanted and Roman would fund it. Mourinho never asked for Shevchenko though, yet was expected to play him.

    My opinion as to why Jose left is because RA was scared of him. I believe RA thought that if Mourinho had too much success, eventually he would become more important than him and the club itself. The transfer dealings only masked the root problems in the breakdown of their relationship as employer/employee
     
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  7. I held a very similar view of the matter.

    My feeling was that the Russian, being the hyper-egotist that he is, simply could not face the fact that the fans loved The Special One more than they loved him, and so he had to go.
     
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  8. Drogs

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    HIAG, I love your musings on our owner <laugh>
     
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  9. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't sure, thats why I asked. Just aswell I did, because I thought he did have/want full control of transfers, did he have a DoF then?
     
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  10. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I always got the feeling it was down to testosterone than anything on the pitch. No manager we've ever hired since RA has been renowned for attractive football so I don't buy that. Not including Scolari because my Nan could have got the Brazilian side of 2002 and Portuguese side of 2004 playing attractive football
     
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  11. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    How weird, if a team is wrapped around its manager and winning, which you were, the CL was only a matter of time imo, you'd think any owner would be happy with that.
     
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  12. I always like to reduce the people in my arguments to cartoon caricatures of themselves, because it makes it easier for me to make my case.
    <laugh>
     
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  13. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Dont Get the point in this thread since all 3 clubs thrive off each others downfalls.




    Prior to the season ending Chelsea and arsenal were having a ****fest at our expense and now it seems like everyone wants a threesome...think I'll give it till 18th August till the hypocrisy resorts to type.
     
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  14. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    We loved Mourinho, more than anything. It's something nobody outside Chelsea will ever understand in the same way nobody outside Chelsea will ever understand why we feel the way we do about Terry or Lampard or even Drogba.

    PNP simplifies it but it's not as cut and dry as just throwing money at the situation. Hughes (City) and Ranieri (Chelsea) had as much money available to spend as their successors but they could not change the mentality of either club.

    When I said in January Spurs couldn't win the league or realistic contenders I wasn't Wumming you I just don't believe you had the mentality. 60% of the battle is mental the other 40% is ability. Poorer teams have won titles before

    Roman couldn't control Jose hence why he sacked him. None of the replacements that have come in have been particularly extrovert characters like Jose and there's a reason for that IMO
     
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  15. notsosmartspur

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    You'd be surprised how many fans of any club 'would' understand how you lot see JM and co. We've all had players and managers we revere.

    I never at any point thought we'd win the league either, until a club occupy's 2nd place, which we didn't, it shouldn't really be thinking about it too much either, but obviously every club has its fanciful dreamers, one of which I am not! :)

    RA should stay the **** out of it like every other owner, he's a bit too hands on imo, your Chairman must have sod all to do most of the time! Our owner may express displeasure at results to Levy, but at least leaves him too it. Each to their own!
     
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  16. crackerman jack

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    I must say Drogs and District Line have been very reasonable despite some quite fierce things said against their team and players! Fair play!
    This thread had a huge potential to turn into a slanging match. This is why this forum is so good most people are a bit more mature than the ones on the old 606.
    Not sure if this good nature will carry on once the season gets underway though!
    Drogs/District line - which spurs players do you hate and why out of interest? You must have some surely!
     
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  17. Drogs

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    If I'm honest mate, not many! I don't really hate players just because they play for a certain club. Perhaps Bale but that's merely because of diving and because you've got a winger better than any of ours for peanuts <laugh>
     
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  18. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I hate AVB (didn't like him even when he was at Chelsea and was vocal in saying so).

    Only Spurs player I hate is G*llas for obvious reasons other than that I don't mind many of the Spurs players. I met Defoe last year and he was possibly one of the nicest people I've met. I was a big fan of Kyle Walker as well and had always said he would make it in this league despite sceptics saying Naughton was the better of the two.

    Unlike Arsenal players I find Spurs players to have a bit more humility about them and respect for their opponents. They don't seem to have the arrogance Arsenal players learn from Wenger and have a decent attitude.

    That's about as much as I'll praise Spurs though. :emoticon-0131-angel
     
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  19. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    Oops I forgot Defoe, don't know why but I've had an irrational hatred for him for years!
     
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  20. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    My Mum used to hate him pathologically until we actually met him on holiday, comes across as a genuinely nice guy, far moreso than Ian Wright or his son (Bradley) did anyway
     
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