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Are we heading for another era akin to the late 80's early 90's

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by East_Stand_Always, May 3, 2016.

  1. hovetiger

    hovetiger Well-Known Member

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    I don't demand success- christ, I watched them most in the pre-KC era- and I certainly recognise we are nowhere near locked gates, chucking pocket money in blankets, making way for the away fans and John Moore. But, in a way, watching the club eating away at itself, at a time when we've had on-field success that I certainly never thought I'd see, is almost more depressing and frustrating.
    It isn't the poncy PL fans who are most pissed off; it's the real hardcore support that has been there for 20+ years, it's employees who have been loyal to the club for decades, and it's a future generation of fans who we've only just tapped into- in short, we might have the most expensive squad in our history which is heading to one of our all-time top 10 league finishes, super flashing floodlights and a media friendly manager, but we are losing our soul.
     
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  2. Fingertips

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    I hope not but I think we could.

    Obviously, we all hoped for more this season but we haven't done too badly. I'm not talking about any particularly great performances but finishing in the playoffs is better than some feared. I could have still felt happy (ish) about it despite topping the table at times as I never really expect smooth sailing on the field.

    The problem is that I don't get that excited in the build up to a match anymore. I don't feel that positive when we score and I don't feel gutted when we go behind.

    I love Hull City. That bond started when my dad took me in the late 80s and I've always been passionate up until the great name change battles. Now it just feels like a nag. I still care about it but it's pissing me off and I don't like it much. I'll get over it eventually but while it keeps on ****ing me off its not going to get much of my attention anymore.

    I missed a game to go shopping with the wife the other week. Wasn't even bothered.

    Crazy.
     
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  3. I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..

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    I always find the Geordies amusing....makes me chuckle a couple of seasons of being there or thereabouts, almost winning the league, a team (for a few fleeting seasons) comprised of some real superstars and then forever moaning and bleating; I'm glad we're not like that.....

    .....Oh wait

    Taken in isolation compared to the last few years this season has been well below par taken in context over the club's history I think it's been not too bad 12 years ago I'd have broken ma grans arm off in exchange for a season like this.

    Unfortunately it'll probably end up smelling of poo but that's why I'd rather be a City lad than a UTD/Pool/Citeh fan.
     
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  4. DMD

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    A big part of the problem is that the majority of fans didn't experience those dark days first hand, if at all. They perhaps get a version of it from reading message boards, or hearing about it at the time from others, but that's not the same thing. It's amazing how low the gates were, given the numbers that reckon they were there.

    Expectations and attitudes are built from experience and history,but that old history has largely been replaced or rewritten to such a degree that football in general is no longer what it was, and can't really go back there.

    In the past,we had an idea of what we were as a club. The club no longer seems to have a clear identity. I think a push to create an image, as say a community or a family club, would at least give some focus and direction, which seems lacking at present.
     
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  5. lakesideview

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    Get a grip,those dark days people go on about are long gone and are **** all to do with now.
    BUT my grandsons season pass has gone from £60 to £486 and as a senior my pass has gone up by £230.
    Forget harping on about great escape and lock outs, deal with present day. This outrageous scheme is going to kill our club and I despise anyone who supports it. When it all goes wrong all of you who are celebrating your pass going down and all of the corporates who are still happy to go and eat and drink because it doesn't effect them will be jointly culpable in the clubs demise.
    We will only put this right by standing together,not by saying it doesn't effect me so I'll stand by and watch.
     
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  6. Brucebones

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    Why Americans?
     
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  7. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    I don't think this club is going back to the 80's/90's Allam as much as most hate him & his ideas, has still put money into the club. He doesn't want it to go that way, what's in it for him?
    Hull City as a club will always be here in one way or another even if they dropped down the leagues again, although I don't see that happening, perhaps middling along in the Championship.
    Whether new owners come in & do some good or some damage, that's all in the future & I doubt anyone knows what's happening there!
     
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  8. Fez

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    It is not a stupid view, it is a highly commendable view. It seems like a very long time since you and I crossed swords (thankfully!), much happening in the meantime, but your comment:

    "For me the no concessions has had a raging effect.

    The last thing i want is premier league football helping his vile plan to work."


    is simply inspirational.

    I find it quite easy to withdraw from his formal support mechanism, I can attend home seats at many an away stadium, when and how I like, often corporate or on invitation; as life runs on, that might not be as much as it could be - interest soon fades with me as other things compete for my time. But your decision, Scarb, puts my gesture in it's place, your passion and commitment to City is irrefutable, it plays a very important part in your life. If there is a story to be told from this, and you are prepared to share it, the Trust really ought to be seeking your permission to let the City community, the Club and everyone else know just what it is you are giving up to demonstrate your intense dislike of this 'vile plan'. I really do take my hat off to you, mate. <ok>
     
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  9. Fez

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    I certainly wouldn't despise anyone, I might question their choices, but they are theirs to make. Other than that I think you have the essence of it right there.
     
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  10. FILEYseadog

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    My dad took me when i was a kid fez..

    So many good memories.

    I think its great when parents take kids wih them. Life time memories are made.
    Alot of us on here know thats so true

    One of the best things about going to city is my two nephews youngster have become city fanatics since i started taking them.

    Yes i could pay the extra....but what about those who cant ?

    Feel bad for them .

    I love going to city .these last few season more then ever for none football reasons

    I dont mind if we lose or play **** to be honest

    But me and the juniors will go to all the away games if possible

    They love away games best.

    Even they agree we should not go to home games

    Its just how i feel Fez.

    Have a good day everyday.

    I will as usual
     
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  11. lakesideview

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    Most kids are frozen out now. Shame.
     
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  12. East_Stand_Always

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    Thanks for all the comments. Those who say look at how successful the season has been are right. In August we would have wanted the position we are in as a minimum but there is a distinct lack of 'heart & soul' to the club. The rest is just going through the motions. We need our soul back. Like or loath the likes of Duffen and Pearson for the way they ran the club (each have their detractors) but they connected with the fans and we felt we were all on the journey together. That has gone, which is a real shame and the rot all started 5 years ago today with the launch of the 'Sports Village' concept in the Hull Daily Mail.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...-plus-sports/story-11968246-detail/story.html
     
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  13. Edelman

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    This is the thing isn't it Filey.
    If i hadnt taken my 3 to City they would have enede up Arsenal, Man Utd etc fans.
    I remember my youngest wanted to be a Liverpool fan coz the lad backway was.
    I refused to allow her to and refused her the kit..
    Get the kids down to the Circle and fuxk the big clubs.
     
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    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Youve summed up precisely how I feel.
     
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    i agree that the price rises are disgusting. however, what does standing together actually mean? the only way i can see of the whole mess being put right is for new owners with functioning hearing faculties and braincells to take over and fix it.

    as for "Get a grip,those dark days people go on about are long gone and are **** all to do with now.", i can't even being to work out why you would start your post with that. it's irrelevant to the rest of the post. those days might be nothing to do with where the club is now, but for those whose loyalty was wrought in the suffering of that period, they are still relevant, and the fact that so many from those days are disillusioned and disaffected is also relevant.
     
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  16. lakesideview

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    No there not, I was around in the bad days as well turning up every week to poor results but it came good in the end, but it just seems we can't concentrate on the present shambles without having to go back and discuss the good old bad old days.
    We should be focusing our words and efforts on changing this dreadful scheme and driving out the equally dreadful owners.
     
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  17. x

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    it's a message board. no restrictions.

    focus away then - how do we change the scheme and owners?
     
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  18. lakesideview

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    If I knew that we wouldn't have all these posts. We could start by not joining the scheme, I'm not, are you?
     
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    i'm not, but then again i'm already lapsed and borassic.
     
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  20. lakesideview

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    Congrats for not joining,I know how it feels to be skint.
     
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