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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Wontspendcantspend, Oct 7, 2024.

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Will Newcastle benefit from the APT case

  1. Yes they'll be scrapped and Newcastle can bulldoze it

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  2. Newcastle will get more wriggle room

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  3. No it'll be exactly the same situation

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  4. No the rules will actually be tightened

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  1. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure mate. Hopefully they have and as such the deals started coming through.

    It is weird why we don’t have a stadium sponsor.
     
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  2. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    The Saudis won't lose face. They have been playing a waiting game. They know that the PL is on the ropes. They will step in once APT 2 is ruled unlawful.

    APT 2 is unlawful because the PL applied a blue pencil test to three unlawful clauses. The tribunal said that the rules collectively are unlawful. Three clauses cannot be amended in isolation to suddenly make the rules lawful.

    They can try and enforce the "new" rules but they will face significant repercussions once the rules are declared void and unlawful.

    Man City has them over a barrel. Three years of unlawful rules causing financial loss and impacted ability to compete. That then gives rise to a potential claim under CAT - outside of the PL's arbitration process and the penalties are unlimited.

    It's that serious for the PL.
     
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  3. Cockface

    Cockface Well-Known Member

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    It's remarkable how many people still believe the PL isn't getting pulverised. How many times can the PL tell the same lie before the penny drops.
     
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  4. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    It’s beautiful mind.
     
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  5. Cockface

    Cockface Well-Known Member

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    The second verdict will be the one, and I don't think anyone can be sure what will happen there.

    I just hope Newcastle were restricted for 3 years.
     
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  6. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    The second one is the killer.
     
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  7. Cockface

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    No idea how that's going to go mind.
     
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  8. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    No-one is talking about the elephant in the room - legal costs.

    These are recouped from PL income due to the clubs.
     
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  9. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    Floodgates.

    Once all APT rules are set aside our sponsor deals will be pushed through.
     
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  10. Cockface

    Cockface Well-Known Member

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    The unify league is coming I think. If the cartel are put into a competitive sport for the first time in decades, they'll bottle it immediately.
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Yeah city really struggling to compete last few years.. and losing money left right and centre.
     
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  12. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't matter.
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    This is the issue.

    Football has always been a sport. Sport needs to have some level of fairness and the easiest way to make it far is to limit every club to the same amount of spend etc no matter who they are.

    Unfortunately over the last 30/40 years it has become less of a sport and more of a business. Clubs get taken over and used as leverage, used to make money and when business is involved you suddenly can’t use those same sporting rules to apply because it is anti competitive. Business in the real world can pump as much money as possible into their business and if it goes tits up the company folds, everyone is made redundant and the big wigs take a little hit and then go create another company and start again.

    Unfortunately you can’t do that in sport. Fans would go mental if that was the case so they try and keep it somewhat fair but then it goes against general business and competition laws… and you get stuck in endless cycle trying to appease every club when some want to spend unlimited amounts and some want some kind of financial fair play.

    In the end, business have more money than the prem and will win. They’ll abolish any kind of psr rules and if some clubs want to they’ll spend money whatever and you’ll get divisions in the league.

    Great for some fans. Not great for others.
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    From a business perceptive probably not.

    From a common sense logical sporting perspective, of course it does.

    It’s greed. It’s always greed and money.

    Football clubs want more and more money and it’s always the fans that pay end of the day. Do clubs need to earn more money? No… do players need to earn 400k a week? No…

    does musk, bezos, Zuckerberg, bill gates need to earn more money? No…. They’ve got more money than could ever spend in 10 lives over, doesn’t stop them wanting more. It’s human nature unfortunately and the people that suffer are at the bottom of the pile.

    Football is meant to be entertaining. 11 people going kicking ball around and some others cheering them on for 90 minutes to get some joy out of it.

    do hardcore city fans get any more joy out of winning a game 3-0 compared to Dave cheering on his local dog and duck side down the road on a Sunday morning? Of course not and fans gloating because a bunch of people they’ve never met and can never relate to have earned 300k by kicking the ball around is just crazy.

    But that’s what football should be about, not who has the most money, not who can **** over a league system that allows millions of people to watch the sport by spending millions of match day going fans money on expensive lawyers.
     
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  15. Schlem Boogerman

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    This has always been the case.
    These days it's just that the numbers are bigger.
     
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  16. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

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    I'll say it again.
    This has always been the case.
    These days it's just that the numbers are bigger.
     
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  17. Rum & Black for 2

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    Ignoring the very obvious divisions that already exist.

    And ignoring the fact that the rules were essentially just protecting the existing ‘elite’ and weren’t actually ensuring that a fair competitive environment existed.

    The aim is fair but that was about all with the current/old rules.
     
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  18. Geordie Ginola

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    3-0 game over. Wow.
     
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  19. ToonArmy1892

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    Nah they are only onto ATP2
     
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  20. Magdad

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    It's not weird at all about a stadium sponsor, last time they had to bus most people in on yellow busses once hung took his crow bar out and wrenched off the St James' park sign. <whistle>
     
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