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Another brillient Queens Speech.......NOT

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by swanseaandproud, May 18, 2016.

  1. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that's a cut and paste from an earlier post of yours. <laugh>
     
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  2. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it you banging on about how many people had to use food banks, because of the current position.
     
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  3. Kifflom!

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    But it "works" <laugh>
     
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  4. swanseaandproud

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    Hooray that's my point. we cant sustain our population as it is with so much poverty and unemployment when we can find money for trident and any war that crops up and that is with All the EU funds and jobs we receive to sustain some sort of normality.. How the hell do you expect us to go it alone when we get all this help and we still cant feed our vulnerable in our society and our old age unable to afford to heat there homes properly or they starve... There is not one country that ever wants a Right wing government and we certainly don't want one. We are much stronger in the EU than out by a country mile just to keep our country sinking into a deep depression nothing like we have seen before......
     
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  5. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    So how are we going to manage with all the migration that WILL happen. Because we wont get any more money to deal with th 12m or so Turks that will come here. There will be no school places for your grandchildren, no free health care. But hey that is fine as long as we are part of the EU.
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Migration is here whether we are in or out......If it was not for our partners in the EU we would be a lot worse off.....
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    So tell me how all those Turks will arrive here if we are not in the EU, add to them Romanians, Bulgarians and everyone else who wants a free ride. It will be a lot easier to control it without the EU>
     
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  8. Kifflom!

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    The EU protects us? Because of Calais? Only a few thousand there so that's bollocks. The only thing that's preventing the situation from being a lot worse is the English Channel and you know it.

    If we remain in the EU the millions of migrants already in Germany, Sweden and elsewhere will eventually be allowed to come here when they get their EU passports. Many will do so, no doubt and you can't blame them. Furthermore, when we allow in Turkey, Albania and so on the flood will continue. These are countries with levels of poverty you can only imagine. With the minimum wage rising in the coming years to £9 an hour (one of the highest in Europe) well, you know what will happen.

    This isn't racist or bigoted. If you have concerns about how we pay for hospitals, schools and the staff that fill them you should be worried. A&E Departments are at breaking point right now. School places are at a premium. Housing is beyond the reach of one of my two kids. When demand goes up (and it's inevitable) things will be even worse. You don't have to be an economist to see this. But yet again it's a price worth paying, right? <doh>
     
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  9. swanee

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    Immigration is at or very near the top of a lot of people`s minds, quite rightly so. 2015 saw a quarter of all births in Britain to Foreign mothers, yep 25%.

    These figures along with Health tourism is part of the problem facing the NHS. Schools is another quandary for local councils. If people wish to come to this country then they should firstly learn the language. It is costing a mind boggling amount to have leaflets in god knows how many languages for these people. If they can`t speak or understand English then they don`t get the service that is, at present given to them before people born in the UK.

    I believe the Netherlands have signs at their points of ingress in all the languages under the sun. Basically saying this is the last time you will see things in your language from now on it will be Dutch. The sooner we do something along these lines the better in my opinion.

    I can understand those people who want us to remain, because they are fooled into a false sense of state by the Terminological inexactitudes coming out of the mouths of those who stand to gain from this undemocratic, unaccountable secret society within a hall of smoke and mirrors.

    I seem to recall an optimum population that the UK could support Just my opinion, bearing in mind that the population is now 65 million, we must be getting very close to that target. Also Muslim families are not noted for their small families, and by the way, this is not getting at Muslims, it`s just that they are told to have large families, not unlike Catholics (no offence intended).
     
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  10. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    We welcome immigration, without it we would not be able to run the NHS or do the jobs people in this country think is below them. the migrants who are fleeing their war torn country we have a duty to look after them and we are not doing our share at the moment and hopefully we can do more. Germany take in 6 times more than us and France 4 times as much. We need to let in and look after another 20,000 at the very minimum...We have to do our bit just like everyone else and we are getting off lightly....
     
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  11. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Repeat please . try something original for gods sake it's like groundhog day with you .You really have no concept of what you post do you son<doh>
     
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  12. swanseaandproud

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    Sorry but its you that dont understand kid <ok>
     
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  13. Kifflom!

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    Oh I'm afraid he does....and calling someone 'kid' does you no credit and doesn't strengthen your argument.

    You seem to be suggesting that we need 340,000 net immigrants a year to man the NHS. I mean, come on. Try again. Besides, what's wrong with training up our own people? My mate is TEFL qualified and the NHS pays him to teach Romainian nurses English - most of them don't speak a word. It's us as taxpayers who pay for this crap.

    Years ago my wife, who was a nurse back then, had to find the money herself for a course. About a grand as I recall. When she went along to the course it was full of foreign nurses who were recording the lectures so that they could be translated. Every single one was paid for by the Health Board. It was one of the things that made her quit in the end.

    ENOUGH!
     
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  14. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    The NHS cannot operate without people from many different countries and that's a fact...The NHS still has to look for nurses from abroad and GP's......We have a lot of thanks to give all these foreigners who answered our call for help.
    Your wife left for no reason other than she wanted to leave....If she was dedicated then she would have carried on regardless who her colleagues were what country they were from or whether Black ,white yellow or sky blue. The NHS did not have enough nurses and recruitment in this country was not enough so what were the NHS suppose to do..
     
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  15. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I fully understand, I'm afraid it's you that really haven't grasped the arguments for leaving and have a narrow simplistic view on the EU .You ignore questions when asked and keep repeating the same limited mantra over and over again .you have not presented one tangible item of evidence as to why we should remain in ,its been a repeat of we're doomed if we go ,you don't happen to be Cameron's speech writer because the similarities of the bullshit he spouts are strikingly obvious .
     
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  16. Kifflom!

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    So you want to make it personal? You really don't have a ****ing clue, you stupid, stupid moron. I said it was "one of the things" that caused my wife to leave. The other factor was illness when she had cancer. It wasn't the COLOUR of the people you dickhead, it was the fact that the Health Board was paying for immigrants to do the course but wouldn't pay for a British person. Do you have a degree in missing the point?

    How dare you say my wife wasn't dedicated. She gave most of her working life to nursing. I do the rounds on the forums and many disagree with my views. That's fair enough. But you are by far the dullest ****ing cretin I've ever met.

    It had to be said.
     
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  17. DragonPhilljack

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    Lads you do realise Dai is brain dead? Might as well talk to a brick wall.......<laugh>
     
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  18. Kifflom!

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    <laugh> OK Phil, you're right. I shouldn't be abusive to the disabled. <laugh>
     
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  19. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    You have to have a brain first to have it die
     
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    Got no answer to that Matt..........<laugh>
     
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