Another angle??

[Lord Jonjomort]

Ok, so I have been thinking, which I admit tends to be dangerous territory for all concerned. Could we have disregarded something in this whole Ashley saga in relation to what the football club actually is? We seem to have just accepted that Ashley bought it so can do what he wants but isn't there stipulations as a member of the Premier League, the FA, UEFA and FIFA that can be brought to bear? Even private companies are run within legal and moral guidelines, employment legislation, company legislation, and so on plus in many cases unions exist to protect individuals. Well in this case, or any football club, are the fans and paying customers not somehow a part of it? I don't believe we are all buying a product. If we were, we have Ashley bang to rights on the Sale of Goods act, at least!!

I just think there are broader ideas to work with here and would like others to think outside the box.

 

[Freddd]

Ashley isn't breaking any laws, and yes, we are buying a product exactly the way you are with a Sky membership. The fact that the shows are low budget rubbish is not a breach of contract

 

[pgakev]

Another Angle? Hmmnn.. How about right or acute or hypotanuse??

 

[Lord Jonjomort]

Ashley isn't breaking any laws, and yes, we are buying a product exactly the way you are with a Sky membership. The fact that the shows are low budget rubbish is not a breach of contract

Obviously he isn't. That we're aware of. But neither is Boris when he cuts back underground ticket booths. Neither are BA in cutting cabin crew. I am not saying its about the law, I am suggesting that acting with contempt of your business stakeholders is on some level against what football itself stands for. Surely intervention by the powers that be is possible? Couldn't the PL say "speak to the fans or face sanctions, point deduction or bans"?? I just feel that fans should be given protection and assurance.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

The only way to get those assurances is if the fans buy a football club.

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

I reckon some crazy Egytian is about to take over and move us lock stock and barrel to a new stadium beside the pyramids.

 

[Heed]

Ok, so I have been thinking, which I admit tends to be dangerous territory for all concerned. Could we have disregarded something in this whole Ashley saga in relation to what the football club actually is? We seem to have just accepted that Ashley bought it so can do what he wants but isn't there stipulations as a member of the Premier League, the FA, UEFA and FIFA that can be brought to bear? Even private companies are run within legal and moral guidelines, employment legislation, company legislation, and so on plus in many cases unions exist to protect individuals. Well in this case, or any football club, are the fans and paying customers not somehow a part of it? I don't believe we are all buying a product. If we were, we have Ashley bang to rights on the Sale of Goods act, at least!!

I just think there are broader ideas to work with here and would like others to think outside the box.

You know what Roland, you may have a point.
If its possible that as fans we could seek damages, it should not be so easily discounted.

Its thinking outside the box like this, that gets thing done.
Just look at the whole PPI affair, they'd have laughed at you for suggesting that you can claim money back 10 years ago.

Go see a Solicitor Now.

 

[Blacker-than-Knight]

You know what Roland, you may have a point.
If its possible that as fans we could seek damages, it should not be so easily discounted.

Its thinking outside the box like this, that gets thing done.
Just look at the whole PPI affair, they'd have laughed at you for suggesting that you can claim money back 10 years ago.

Go see a Solicitor Now.

English law has always allowed for someone to sue another party for injury, the barrier has usually been the cost balanced against losing the case, PPI claims hit the ceiling because law firms brought in the no win no fee structure, this started around 1995 and I think was extended in 1998, a bit more than 10 years. As far as sale of goods act this would have no bearing on a football match.

 

[Lord Jonjomort]

I reckon some crazy Egytian is about to take over and move us lock stock and barrel to a new stadium beside the pyramids.

You read about that bloke Mohamed Farag Amer an'all?!

 

[Lord Jonjomort]

English law has always allowed for someone to sue another party for injury, the barrier has usually been the cost balanced against losing the case, PPI claims hit the ceiling because law firms brought in the no win no fee structure, this started around 1995 and I think was extended in 1998, a bit more than 10 years. As far as sale of goods act this would have no bearing on a football match.

Sadly I think I was being absurd and RH was being somewhat disingenuous...



Does seem that football is somewhat overly exposed to the elements of capitalism.

 

[Heed]

Sadly I think I was being absurd and RH was being somewhat disingenuous...



Does seem that football is somewhat overly exposed to the elements of capitalism.

I think I may have been somewhat.
But its at times like this that you have to keep your sense of humour.

 

[Albert's Chip Shop]

Divvent worry.
I'll buy the club.