You know what, just seen an American post this on social media “Yes, because your son was the first kid to be murdered. That’s extremely sad and I’m sorry you lost your child. However emotions don’t get to dictate my rights to own a handgun. Or any firearm for that matter.”
Somebody 'accused' me of being a 'do-gooder' on social media and that 'people like me' are the people he's trying to stop. the other day and I thought "well, yeah, I'm doing good. I want to live in a better world, why would you try and stop that from happening?" Also, by the process of elimination, he's openly admitted to stopping do-gooders from doing good things and therefore accidentally revealed himself to be a bad person. He then backed down having posted some memes about NPC's and Trump being ace. On the guns issue, a lot of Americans don't seem to be able to differentiate between a right and a need. I've asked a lot of Americans what they need a gun for. These were the reasons they came up with "To defend my home against invaders." So why don't British people need guns? Or any other developed Western nation, for that matter. We have home invasions here, the difference is, we aren't ****ing useless at defending our families. We're just tougher people than them, by the sounds of it. "In case the government take over." What, the government you voted in? So you'll sit on your porch with an AR-15 while wearing a MAGA hat just on the off chance that the president you voted for turns out to be a tyrannical schemer intent on taking over a country he already owns? "To defend against invaders." Because it's still the 1800s and countries still go around launching mass invasions of other ones. I don't think any country needs to invade anywhere anymore, not in terms of Western powers anyway. So that one is also bollocks. "It's my right, you can't just change the constitution because it's a legal document." Well, you can. It's called an amendment, they've done it 27 times already. It was once the right of a white person to own a slave. That was changed. It was illegal for them to sell alcohol due to an amendment. It was amended to allow women to vote. It's been changed a lot, many times for the better and it's a working document. "Guns are dangerous, but are you going to ban cars if people use them to run over people?" No, because a car isn't designed for that, it's a transport vehicle you ****wit. If I brained you with a frying pan, would that lead to a ban on kitchenware? A gun is designed to kill a lot of people in the shortest time possible. When the law was passed, guns took about three days to reload. A shooter with an AR-15 with an extended magazine can kill a classroom full of children in less than 60 seconds. The knife argument is tired as well, as if we have as many deaths due to stabbings as they do with guns. "You don't even have guns in the UK, you aren't allowed them, it's ridiculous." The last mass shooting we had was the Dunblane massacre. In a matter of days, the law was changed. I can still get a gun if I want one, I'd need a good reason for it and that's probably why I don't own one. Guns have become an institution in America, they've been duped into thinking they need them by a group of people that profit from that situation, and the result is a lot of dead children. Exactly how high does the pile of children's corpses have to rise before they make a change that ****ing matters? What's worse, I imagine, is what kind of event needs to happen before they agree that guns are the problem. They are, quite literally, the last people on the planet to work out that guns in the hands of civilians is a bad idea. Stop ****ing killing each other, it's that simple. Stop shooting your ****ing kids, stop trying to defend the indefensible, start making a positive difference that will save lives. Idiots.
I got in a discussion about guns on a US forum. Among a lot of other nonsense, they argued us not having guns is why we get terrorists. The fact they lose far more kids due to guns than we lose people due to terrorism seemed lost on them. They argued about freedoms, yet didn't see children needing to be screened at school through airport style security, and having routine shooter drills" as a freedom issue. They flagged up a nutter with a knife attacking a car in the UK, reckoning guns would have stopped it. Arguing the guy was locked in his car and therefore safe from a knifeman skimmed over them as much as the argument that the guy in the car also being liable to have a gun meant potentially two or more lives lost in the US, vs a scratched door panel in the UK. They really do think that we're not allowed guns, rather than accepting that most of us don't want one, but could get one if we did. The anger and irrationality in defending being armed, and their apparent eagerness to at least threaten to use them for me was reason enough to believe they weren't fit to have them.
*Spate of shark attacks* Australia: We're putting up shark nets to prevent sharks access to swimmers. USA: If everyone carried a shark with them, there would be fewer shark attacks.
We need more guns to stop this wave of shootings! Yes. In the same way that petrol is a liquid, like water, and is therefore the perfect way to put out a raging fire.
So Trump reckons the answer is more armed security guards does he? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46187460
Anyone else spot the moment ‘Timmy’ your resident troll on here moved in on this thread? Old mother Riley would turn in her grave. Allams OUT
Funny how what is played on the news shapes opinions. The USA ranks 53rd in the world in intentional homicide rates, while Thailand is 52nd. (Venezuela is 5th). Still, the mass shootings are an alarming signal that something is going wrong with society. Guns have been prevalent in the US since long before General Gage decided to confiscate the powder and shot at Concord, yet instances of sociopaths shooting up crowds is a recent phenomena.
Tex it's one of those subjects that most Americans will just never be able to see the point of view of most Europeans. I had a long running argument with an ex-colleague in Beijing about eating dogs. His heart felt position was if you eat meat whats the difference. It's a cultural thing. But if I'd been armed I'd had shot the ****er. I like guns. I'll say that now. I've fired literally thousands of rounds down range and elsewhere. I own a gun. However, I don't think most people should own a gun and I think their ownership, storage and access should be extremely restricted. I also believe there is no justification in the developed world to own a gun for "home defence". I know it wont influence you but here's why... Approximately 500,000 people around the world are killed by guns each year. In terms of developed countries, the biggest losses are in the US, where citizens own 300 to 350 million guns in total. There, gun homicide rates are more than 25 times higher than the combined rate of other high-income nations. You mentioned intentional homicide rates I actually think the USA is 90th. However, looking at the list there are NO high-income nations above you. Unless you count Russia. Do you really want to be comparing yourselves to Russia or Venezuela (I've been to both an believe me they're **** holes compared to Texas). Around 60% US firearm deaths were suicides more than 80% of attempted suicides with a gun end in death. Gun advocates argue that people just find another way to kill themselves. In Australia, after they banned most guns, 80% of gun suicides no longer happened. What surprised the hell out of them was that the displacement of lethal methods did not occur. In other words the suicide rate dropped significantly, those intending to commit suicide simply didn't moved on to another weapon/method. It wasn’t just suicides. The rate of gun homicides in Australia was also slashed by more than half following the ban. And furthermore, while critics in the US often argue that murderers would just find another way to kill their victims, that didn’t happen in Australia. Instead, non-gun homicides remained the same meaning a drop in murders overall. This especially applies to domestic abusers. A woman whose violent partner has access to a gun is eight times more likely to be killed. If guns disappeared, partners who lash out in a moment of anger are much less likely to inflict fatal damage. 50 women are shot to death by partners each month in the US. It likely would experience a similar decline in death of women as Australia. The US is unexceptional in its overall level of most types of crime: it’s about average when compared to the UK, Western Europe, Japan and other developed nations.When it comes to homicides, however, the US rate is about four times higher. That’s because it’s much more likely a gun rather than another type of weapon will be used in an assault in the US, which increases the risk of death by a factor of seven.
