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Animal Farm part 2

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Sep 6, 2019.

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  1. Stan

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    The Labour Party has about 500,000 members and you think 5 million of them "want out".

    Is this another Shadow MP moment Skiddy?
     
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    Thanks for the tip off Manifest, enjoying it.<ok>
     
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    To be fair I think Corbyn's aim (and I mean just Corbyn, not all members of his party), is to stop a no deal Brexit, where as the aim of the SNP and the Lib Fems is to Stop Brexit altogether.
     
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    Yeah it's good innit !
     
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  5. Stan

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    Yes but that doesn't suit the CRAZED LEFTIE narrative.
     
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    1000% of Labour members want to leave the EU. Can't argue with those sort of numbers.
     
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    Yeah, on episode 4 already .
     
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    Well they have made this alliance because their interests align at the moment, but in the instance that a Labour/Lib Fem coalition came into government, they would quickly find themselves at odds again when and if Corbyn negotiated a deal with the European Empire and tried to put it through parliament.

    The problem is here, Boris is taking a risk, and we do not know how much of a risk, because he cannot tell us whats going on in the negotiations.
    Same with Corbyn, I would like to sit him the **** down and ask him what kind of deal he would be looking for with the European Imperial State, and what concessions he would be willing to make to them in order to "Protect jobs" which is what he always prattles on about.
     
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    There aren't really any negotiations taking place so there's not really anything to tell. He's cut the negotiating team by 75% and an EU Brexit committee member said that basically all the UK team have said is take the backstop out of the WA and the EU have said no. Johnson has no intention of getting a deal as he knows he can't get one that will cover all the promises the Leave campaign made. Easier to **** the country and blame the EU. It's been transparent from the start of his navigation into No10.
     
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    I don't believe he is actively seeking a deal but intends to crash out. However his means to do so but he seems happy enough that those who disapprove are chasing red herrings.
     
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    Even without the backstop, Mays WA was absolutely shocking.
    If that agreement has been rejected and the EU wont negotiate further then we will have to leave with No Deal.
     
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    Negotiations <laugh>
     
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    If he wants to crash out then that aligns his intentions with Farage, which means a Tory/Brexit party coalition as the next government.
    <laugh>
    wow
     
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    May's deal was the best deal we were going to get. That's why Johnson isn't even trying to get a deal.

    The problem is, Brexit was always going to be ****.
     
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    Then No Deal it is
     
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    Farage wanted a Norway deal. Now he wants to crash out. Wonder why. <laugh>
     
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    Possibly.

    It's a very **** way to treat those who are already struggling but then it's very **** people who are salivating over the prospect of no deal.
     
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    Nope, as there’s absolutely no mandate for a no deal Brexit.

    Don’t take my word for it though, ask the Co-Chairman of the Vote Leave Campaign.

    "But we didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped lead. During that campaign, we said we should do a deal with the EU and be part of the network of free trade deals that covers all Europe, from Iceland to Turkey.

    "Leaving without a deal on March 29 would not honour that commitment. It would undoubtedly cause economic turbulence. Almost everyone in this debate accepts that."

    https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-02...-written-in-the-sands-can-be-seen-from-space/
     
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    Lets not quibble about that, you can argue either way till you are Blue in the face
    "The ballot paper made no mention of a deal" "Article 50 specifies you leave with no deal and 498 MPs voted to trigger it" yadda yadda.
    I would be all for a second referendum that says "Leave with Mays deal" or "Leave with No deal", to clear things up, so there is no more of this "He said, she said" bollocks.
     
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    Go back to the EU .with withdrawal bill.
    Put a 10 year maximum time limit on the Backstop ? ( Just a suggestion )
    Bring back the deal and vote on it
     
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