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Andy Murray

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by The Raging Oxter, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    England ARE demonstrably ****e.
     
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  2. Erik

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    You win. FA Trophy then. <ok>
     
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    Correct <ok>

    That way you don't have to listen to the appalling pundits whingeing on about "how did it happen? we have great players, maybe they were just tired, we have the best league in the world, i felt sure this was our year, where did it all go wrong".

    I'm not even a football expert (Mind you neither are the pundits) but the fact is YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

    We'll be hearing the same old tripe in 2066.

    "Ah was it just 100 years ago that England triumphed".
     
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  4. Erik

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    The Premier League is NOT the best league in the world, it doesn't have the best players, English players are **** (largely, I must say, because of their unwillingness to play abroad), it's not the best supported numbers-wise, it's not the best supported quality-wise, it's too expensive, the National team is ****, etc...
     
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  5. SleepySpecialK

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    English Football is ****e.

    Why the **** Rangers and Celtic want to join a big bursting bubble I don't know.
     
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  6. Erik

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    At least English football has a bubble. <nahnah>
     
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  7. SleepySpecialK

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    A nice bubble that's going to go......BANG. It can't continue for ever. The report this week showed that English clubs pay soething like 70% (or something) in wages. No other business could live with that.
     
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  8. RAVENBLACK

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    Yes but just remember people in glass bubbles and all that......................
     
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  9. Erik

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    Yep. I was joking, you know. I really hate English football actually. You only have to see the mess that our (Hull's) previous owners did to a club that had been on a pretty much perfect financial footing for years to see how quickly and dramatically things can change.
     
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  10. Bollocks

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    What a boring pissing contest this is. Try and be objective here, children.

    Andy Murray is an exceptional talented tennis player who may or may not win a major. Either way, he's already had a very successful career.

    The English football team is poor and fundamentally flawed. Scotland, however, are not even on their level.

    The English Premier League, while not currently boasting the best teams in the world, is fantastic entertainment as world wide viewing figures will attest.

    The SPL actually punches above it's weight (for such a small country) in having two clubs as renowned and successful as Rangers and Celtic. It seems to me though that the this is part of the problem. If the support and finance generated by the Old Firm were spread evenly across all ten teams, then perhaps the league might be interesting and competitive.

    I think I've covered everything.
     
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    The scotch have been saying the Premier League "bubble" will pop for years. Anyone care to give a time by which this bubble will have popped then we can revisit this thread and congratulate them on their foresight?
     
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  12. Erik

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    To be fair, when a team like Liverpool starts spending £60m on the likes of Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson, it doesn't bode well for the financial future of English football.
     
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  13. SleepySpecialK

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    **** me, don't take things so seriously.

    BTW 13/06/2012

    BANG

    Just when UEFA tell the in debt clubs to go **** themselves.

    (I guessed the date).
     
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  14. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    English teams have done very well in the European Cup/Champions League. We've won 11 titles, onlty 2 less than Spain, 1 less than Italy, 5 more than Germany and 6 more than Holland. Scotland's record of one is on a par with Romania and Serbia FFS. Our national team may be ****e and has been for most of the last 50 years, but club football is far more important to most English football fans.
     
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  15. Erik

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    That's true. It probably stems from having 92 League teams and 4 divisions, instead of the smaller structures in place in Europe.
     
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  16. The Raging Oxter

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    Yes, but it's built on importing foreign players and paying them massive amounts of money which is unsustainable. Most countries have gone through this to a relative degree. It happened in Scotland, Germany, Italy and Holland and none of the clubs in these countries had anywhere near the debt of many EPL clubs.
     
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  17. Jip Jaap Stam

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    I think it's more to do with football being of such importance here. After all, out of the 92 League teams and 4 divisions, only 4 teams have actually won the European Cup, though we've had 3 runners up as well of course. Football's very important an Scotland as well of course, but comes a poor third to stabbing and opiate abuse.
     
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  18. Jip Jaap Stam

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    Liverpool, Forest and Villa were hardly massive spenders in the 70s/80s. Even United's treble winning team of 1999 was based mainly on youth team players supplemented by shrewd purchases.

    As for foreign players, if you go back to the final in Moscow in 2008, 10 out of the starting 22 players were English. **** knows how we didn't qualify for Euro 2008
     
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  19. Erik

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    Nottingham Forest's new manager might know.
     
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    Because you weren't good enough we came closer to qualifying for 2008 than you and with France and Italy in our group, this is what people mean by english arrogance at the end of the day a better question for you how many ENGLISH coaches have won the european cup to SCOTTISH?
     
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