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Andrey Arshavin goes out on loan.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Sanj, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. Not PC enough

    Not PC enough New Member

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    Will be interesting to see if his form miraculously improves at Zenit.
    Just as Cesc has found his form at Barca.

    I for one wish him good luck .

    Thanks for all your GOOD performances for us Andrey .
     
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  2. Arsenal4life

    Arsenal4life Well-Known Member

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    Arshavin was and still is quality. He just wanted to leave arsenal probably for 12 months now. These last 12 months he has been woeful but people forget at the start of last year he was decent and scored/created quite alot for us.

    Glad wenger has got rid. I think wenger knows who sucks. We dont give him enough credit. He tried to offload a load of them last year but couldnt do it probably due to wages/asking for too much. This year all these clowns have 1 less year on their contracts and will be more willing to leave arsenal. This should help wenger to offload a load of the mugs.

    I think next year will be a different look arsenal and am sure that wenger will look to trim the wage bill in the summer to make room for 3/4 top players.
     
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  3. Arsenal4life

    Arsenal4life Well-Known Member

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    And the crowd get on his back. Everytime I go I am shocked at how badly they get on his back.

    As already stated he has been played out of position too, which sucks.
     
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  4. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    'Wenger -fied'? Yeah sure. What an idiotic post.. You seem the one with the short memory!


    Thierry Henry, Berkamp, Pires, Campbell, Cole, Toure, Adebayor, Anelka, Overmars, Petite, Vieira, Van Persie etc .. this list of players Wenger has improved is frigging endless.


    There are plenty of negatives you could say about Wenger (tactically naive, stubborn etc..) but one thing he does well and has always done well and that's improve the players that play under him.
     
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  5. Not PC enough

    Not PC enough New Member

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    Walcott was great at southampton then he came to us .

    Vela was a great player then he came to us

    Chamakh was a great player then he came to us

    Arshavin was a great player then he came to us

    These were dynamic individuals wh would take on anyone and score goals , but wenger doesnt like dynamic individuals , he trains them to become passing sideways robots.

    Fat lot of good its done us eh ?


    That list of players you wrote , he DIDNT improve them , they were just too strong in character to listen to the French tw@t .


    Please indulge us by explaining how he has improved walcott .

    i could do with a laugh .
     
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  6. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

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    Chamberlain was a good player for us. .............….....…....then he went to you.....?...........
     
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  7. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    Very good news, that's one cr@p player offloaded, and now with the other dead weight at the club.
     
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  8. velachiperoo

    velachiperoo Well-Known Member

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    Agree but don't think he was in it for the money he took a 30k pay cut to join us not to mention the MUCH higher taxes in the Uk when compared to Russia
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Arshavin only really looked like he wasn't doing much. Last year he had the 4th highest assists in the premiership and his combined goals and assists were the same as Fabregas, and better than Lampard.

    It wouldn't surprise me if he continues to do well in Russia.
     
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  10. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    TheBear, you can remove Pires, Campbell, Bergkamp and Overmars from that list, he didn't improve any of them, they were already at that level when they came to us<ok>

    You can't say he hasn't killed a fair few - Arshavin and Chamakh being the 2 most recent examples.
     
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  11. TheTruthHurts

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    what did wenger do to squallaci!!!!

    it does not matter how good a player actually is in the long run.. it matters how much they are prepared to do on the pitch during the good and the bad times .. how much effort they attach to thier class is what makes a real player

    if henry or berkgamp or wrighty played with the same engery as the bone idol russian then none of them would ever have become an arsenal great and legend.

    that we off load him a few weeks after the transfer windoq is bad managment, any more examples of poor mangament and wenger will create his own dud dvd to go along side his greatest hits .. its left us weaker of a squad player (who on his day could certainly play) who exposed our defence too much and got fat ...

    oxo can fill archavins boots even whilst he's learning ... an elephant could just about squeze into his shorts though
     
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  12. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Well it's clear that Arshavin had to leave. Has Wenger got something to do with his drop in quality, of course he has. He is the coach of the team after all and it is his responsibility to get the best out of all our players whether it be man management or tactically. It's a big shame that he didn't try Arshavin in his native position of central attacking midifelder, but why didn't he? Arshavin gets stick for underperforming but why doesn't Wenger get stick for putting Arshavin on the left? It's not like we are briming with super players in the central midfield positions? Arshavin isn't the only player that Wenger's stuck in a position they are not used to, remember Bendtner? Im not on a Wenger bash but people need to realise that this is his job and for the past few years, he hasn't been doing a top job.
     
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  13. EmirAleks

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    At least he did more in his short spell of brilliancy at Arsenal than the likes of Diaby, Djourou, Denilson etc have done throughout their whole careers. I hope he will go back to his home team (which is actually in good shape having just beat Benfica in CL) and get his confidence back.

    He plays for Zenit against CSKA next Sat. :)
     
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  14. TenG

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    There are very few players who perform at international level where teh football is sterile and pressure is enormous, and Arshavin is one such player. His performances for Zenit and his the first 6 months at Arsenal he was great.

    Whatb happened after that is anybodies guess, and let's be honest he is not the only great/accomplished/good/promising player we've had over the 5 seasons who has lost his sparkle once at Arsenal. Even Cesc was downbeat.

    I wish them all well - not good to wish bad for people.

    The fault I found with Arshavin's play was that he worked well in teams and games where there was a lot of movement creating spaces for him to pass or run. Our problem in attack for the passed two seasons has been a very static, predictable attack suited more to chess players than bip-bap-bop (Ron Atkinson mode) passing which is what Arsenal try to emulate but without having the real nous to do.

    So, I think overall Arshavin and Chamach are victims of a genaral decline in the matsery of the passing game. All of them are of course culpable - we don't seem to have the sort that roll their sleeves up and determine to see to it that they work that bit harder for the cause. However, you do have to wonder why such talent fails to blossom at Arsenal since 2009.
     
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  15. suker_suker

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    Henry's work ethic was extremely strong, his only vice was a glass of wine on a Sunday apparently. Arshavin clearly had trouble keeping the weight off, that's not Wenger's fault, out of position or not, with Arshavin's obvious natural talent you would expect a better return than what he gave. Best of luck to him but I don't think it's fair to blame his poor form on being 'Wengerfied'. Hopefully, as expressed above, this is the start of a serious squad refreshment where the complacency that was a hallmark of Arshavin's Arsenal career will no longer be tolerated.
     
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  16. Grizzly

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    I'll be slightly controversial here, getting rid of Arshavin mid season makes no sense, end of the season yes but I think we're going to consider/use as many options as possible in the next 10 weeks.
    Lazy and disinterested as he's been he is still a decent player who can put in the odd performance that makes a difference, we may not have seen it too often but we know he still has the talent, a couple of injuries during the run-in and we're ****ed.
    Offload in the off season when you can replace with a better option - clearly something has changed very recently because had Zenit/Arshavin requested this a month ago I'm sure AW would have looked for a replacement...
     
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  17. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Exactly - its all rather odd. Midweek reserves game and he's off. ???

    Has our hero been given a nudge from upstairs to start sorting out the squad?
     
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  18. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem, he should differentiate between what IS working opposed to what HE THINKS is working. This is why we are all saying that he is too stubborn now. He almost refuses to see the problems that our current squad is facing because it conflicts his personal beliefs...
     
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  19. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, this was a bizarre decision indeed. It's not like we are brimming with quality at the moment and we know that Arshavin is capable of producing some brilliance now and again compared to some of the other players. For me it partly goes down to Wengers failure of not being able to motivate him properly.
     
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  20. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    motivate him properly...... <laugh>

    I wondered what in a French accent speaking to a ruskie sound like
    ' for Christ's sake get out there and run your balls off. Its about time you idle bastard turned on the old 4 goal a game magic, tout-de-suite !! Comprenez-pas ? Else I'll ship your useless arse back to ****ing Moscow - Gedit?
     
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