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Kempton said:
Why is it I keep seeing on the news that we all have to be careful of heat exhaustion and yet I'm ****ing freezing to death?
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Possibly a similar reason to why at other times the complaint is that people conflate weather with climate, and then claim the hottest day on record, when we're actually in one of the coldest periods that the planet has experienced.

It's as if we're not really supposed to understand or question.


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DMD said:
Possibly a similar reason to why at other times the complaint is that people conflate weather with climate, and then claim the hottest day on record, when we're actually in one of the coldest periods that the planet has experienced.

It's as if we're not really supposed to understand or question.


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All man made though……get with the agenda!
 
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Very sad news if anyone watched the c4 documentary about britains forgotten pensioners


Britain's loneliest pensioner, 76, reveals he is now fighting cancer
47mins ago
One of Britain's loneliest pensioners has been told the news that he has oesophageal just days after sharing his grief on a documentary.

John Foster, 76, who has outlived all his friends and family, has said he wishes he wasn't here after discovering he has the disease just six weeks ago.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...est-pensioner-76-reveals-fighting-cancer.html
 
DMD said:
Possibly a similar reason to why at other times the complaint is that people conflate weather with climate, and then claim the hottest day on record, when we're actually in one of the coldest periods that the planet has experienced.

It's as if we're not really supposed to understand or question.


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DMD said:
Possibly a similar reason to why at other times the complaint is that people conflate weather with climate, and then claim the hottest day on record, when we're actually in one of the coldest periods that the planet has experienced.

It's as if we're not really supposed to understand or question.


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taken from the smithsonian institute website.


“Unique to today’s global warming are the sources of heat-trapping gases and rates of change. Heat-trapping gases during the PETM event came from natural events. Huge eruptions that forced carbon out of rocks were followed by warming oceans that freed methane gas from ocean floor deposits. But most modern carbon emissions come from burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas) for transportation and industry, and from certain chemical reactions (such as making cement). Human-caused carbon emissions are setting the atmospheric stage for current and future warming.

Also, the rate at which carbon is entering the atmosphere today is many times greater than the PETM carbon emissions. And, while temperature changes in the PETM appear drastic in geologic time, the rate of temperature change today is more than ten times what occurred then. During the Anthropocene, humans have been successful enough as a species to cause global changes in the systems that make Earth habitable.”

Suggests global warming is man made. Also, the red parts of the graph are possibly times when earth would arguably be too hot for modern civilisation to exist (although I assume a few of us would be able to get by in cooler parts of the planet).

woudnt it just be better to stop emitting carbon, just in case?
 
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What? A full dog? said:
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woudnt it just be better to stop emitting carbon, just in case?
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Yes it would. Along with further reducing pollution, land fill, etc, and stopping chopping forests down etc etc.
But it's the speed and manner of the transition to 'net zero' (or whatever bollox you want to call it).
I doubt any sane person would argue against a gradual transition, and most would more willingly accept it all if the manner was to encourage & incentivise rather than tax & punish.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Yes it would. Along with further reducing pollution, land fill, etc, and stopping chopping forests down etc etc.
But it's the speed and manner of the transition to 'net zero' (or whatever bollox you want to call it).
I doubt any sane person would argue against a gradual transition, and most would more willingly accept it all if the manner was to encourage & incentivise rather than tax & punish.
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I think you need to do both. There’s no doubt that being environmentally responsible costs more, so you need to reverse that. Subsidies and incentives alone cost government, so there needs to be a ‘stick’ element. The problem at the moment is that we have very little incentive and we are in a cost of living crisis.
Without wanting to get into politics, if we are not happy with the way the country is heading with trying to resolve climate change, we need to vote for change!
But the answer isn’t to deny there is a climate issue, that’s just what an ostrich would do.
 
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taken from the smithsonian institute website.


“Unique to today’s global warming are the sources of heat-trapping gases and rates of change. Heat-trapping gases during the PETM event came from natural events. Huge eruptions that forced carbon out of rocks were followed by warming oceans that freed methane gas from ocean floor deposits. But most modern carbon emissions come from burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas) for transportation and industry, and from certain chemical reactions (such as making cement). Human-caused carbon emissions are setting the atmospheric stage for current and future warming.

Also, the rate at which carbon is entering the atmosphere today is many times greater than the PETM carbon emissions. And, while temperature changes in the PETM appear drastic in geologic time, the rate of temperature change today is more than ten times what occurred then. During the Anthropocene, humans have been successful enough as a species to cause global changes in the systems that make Earth habitable.”

Suggests global warming is man made. Also, the red parts of the graph are possibly times when earth would arguably be too hot for modern civilisation to exist (although I assume a few of us would be able to get by in cooler parts of the planet).

woudnt it just be better to stop emitting carbon, just in case?
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While they're shorter lived in the atmosphere, methane and water vapour have a far greater global warming potential than CO2, so should be a far greater priority in an emergency.
 
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