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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Gone For A Walk, Sep 16, 2021.
There's no need for that. They'll be someones wife or daughter.
In stadium and area controlled by the club
£200k a season for City?
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ...ach/html/3/004101 22 RESPONSE LETTER.pdf.html
They should have also asked how much it costs per season for them to send officers to act as spotters at away matches.
I want to be their instructor, just so that if I'm asked what I do, I can say "train spotters".
At a recent Rovers game, the away fans threw a smoke canister and some attacked people outside the stadium. With there not being any plod present, they had to be called and arrests were made, all away fans.
Ho ho ho!
Burnsy brought it up a few times.
could have been us, to a lesser degree.
The Met claim that they only recover 4% of policing costs from London clubs. The London clubs benefit from the fact that the land they're on is basically just the stadium and everything outside is not their land, so all the police on the residential streets and tube stations etc, can't be claimed.
It's why there's the odd situation of Arsenal only paying peanuts and us paying more. Man City have to pay £600k, as all the land around the stadium is theirs.
That makes sense
We will pay for every cop that sets foot on the whole area managed by the SMC.
At a cost of £200k a season, 10 arrests, how many were actually charged? How much did policing cost Hull Fc at the same stadium ,same city, same police force?
I know the cost of policing was a very big bone of contention with the last owners of the club. They felt as though they were being held to ransom. Same at Boothferry park, different owners yet the same row over policing costs to the club. One incident stands out, pre season friendly, Middlesboro at home. The club at the time were in a stand off with humberside police over costs and how many officers the police expected to be on duty on match days. So for this game the police led the Boro fans to Tam Tam bar to drink before the game. Never happened before in fact Boro fans used to be directed to Beverley before the game but this time, no, they were herdered to a bar, next one down to Silver Cod, where City fans used to meet. No other away fans before or after this event had been offered the same venue, in fact just the opposite, the police always directed visiting coaches to the outskirts of town, or to places like Beverley.
By sheer coincidence there happened to be a huge pile of bricks left outside Cod by the Highways Dept this particular summers night, and for once the police allowed the Boro fans to drink on the pavement outside the pub, same as at Cod. Also across the road someone just happened to be filming everything from their bedroom window, as you do, on Anlaby Road, at tea time in the middle of summer. Not a policeman either but a 'civilian'.
When an object was allegedly thrown the police were convientley near by, and as a result, and the handy cctv, arrests were made and their arguement that the club HAVE to have x-amount of officers on duty, not to mention also on the their pay roll, or else this could happen every home game was weighed heavily in their favour.
I’m not aware of that, but more than happy to take your word for it.
Something seems odd doesn’t it.
If Police nationally complain, and they do, that policing football costs them because they can’t recover all their costs (only 5% in London, as OLM said…the Met claim) then you’d think they’d do all they could to minimise the numbers of Police on duty.
Here they seem to argue for putting more cops on, which is why I always assumed they made money on it somewhere along the line.
Not privy to info at all, but I assumed that maybe they used some who would be on duty anyway, and could be called away if needed, to be assigned to the match so they effectively got free city centre staffing that day…or something like that anyway.
Any why none for Rugby when in recent years they seem to have a bigger issue with crowd trouble?
Burnsy said 5 times. Seems he was wrong. It was only 4 times. So that’s OK then. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/spo...ews/hull-city-humberside-police-costs-3624093
As Lambo said one big issue is the payment for Police on club land is likely to be bigger here as the club controlled land here is bigger than London clubs.
Wasn’t our “bubble match” v Huddersfield a result of WYP losing a court case brought by LUFC regarding policing costs beyond LUFC’s boundaries & them subsequently spitting their dummy out?
I believe the Court ruled that policing costs outside the boundaries on match days, including the City Centre, should be met by the force & not the club.
I’m guessing our footprint is bigger & the plod can camp within in.
Salford headhunters....You would have thought Plod would have engaged his one brain cell and come to the conclusion that there was a potential for trouble and rocked up with a few lads, plus given the profile of the game and the incendiary history between the fans...But no, according to the KR fans I know who were present, there wasn't a copper to be seen within miles...Left it to the stewards apparently. Good luck with that.
Before that case and subsequent ruling, clubs were paying far more, the London clubs saw their policing costs cut by about 80-90%.
Crystal Palace £7,000 City over £200,000. Does City own half of Hull?So why can’t we develop on Walton Street? Oh, our massive footprint does not cover it as that and and West Park are not owned by us but the council.
I remember that copper in charge who insisted we give Bunkers to Bradford and the suggested the arrangement should be made permanent until it was pointed out 50 fans from the likes of Southend would look ridiculous being on Burnsy and discussing police financing. He said Humberside Police were particularly good at raising money for itself, especially at football matches. Accompanied by an obscene chuckle.