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An Open Letter From Coloccini

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  1. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace
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    Good question. It's a genuine dilemma.

    For what it's worth, my personal view is that the club have finally woken to the need to act. Therefore, boycotts won't help much niw, as the point has been made.

    Sooo, I'd say go along and back the team in FULL voice to literally raise the roof and lift the players for the final games. It mighf just make the difference. Still actively protest against Ashley HIMSELF at pre determined times, but otherwise cheer the team on. IF they STILL don't look bothered then by all means boo them off.

    Of course, just my view and easy to say with not being a ST holder, so not having paid to suffer in the way others have. Anyone wishing to boycott is well within their rights for their own reasons.
     
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  2. Hugh Briss

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    There is simply no way that he wrote that.

    Although a very convincing battle-cry, it would take a staggering amount of delusion to imagine that the letter was personally penned by our Argentinian skipper.

    That in itself irritates me. They take the fans for gormless mugs and look surprised when people react angrily to being patronised.

    Truly staggering.
     
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  3. MF SHAK

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    ive read it a couple of times..it does seem like it may be direct from colo and possibly translated, the english used is slightly awkward. I agree there are probably some additions, but it seems heartfelt and actually gives me some sort of comfort...although, whats that analogy or metaphor or whatever about 'something in a drought' (im slightly drunk lol)


    if legit, and as i say i believe it is though obviously sceptical, then this actually gives us an opportunity to show the kind of support we can put behind the team and not the regime, and to do so in a positive manner by getting behind a player/captain/team who, for all his faults, has been very good for us in our better moments and is still one of the best defenders of recent years by far (i very much agree with what brs said earlier)

    im sort of waiting for one of you to confirm my cynicism and post something after this which makes me look at it differently, but at the moment im thinking fair play to anyone that goes. I havent come up for a home game in almost three years but this feels like a call to arms. It feels like im sir davos and stannis is in danger.
     
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  4. MF SHAK

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    well there goes my optimism, ten minutes ago <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  5. haslam

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    I just want the team to go out onto the pitch and try. **** writing letters and clichés, it means nothing if they don't go out and actually put the effort in.
     
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  6. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Do not see how it is a genuine dilemma - we need to stay up! Feck all the bitterness and amonisity (sp) - we need to pull together for the games until we are safe! End of!
    If things don't then change during the coming months then go ahead boycott every home game! Doing it at this stage has negative impact and will put us in a position where JC stays and MA can't sell the club!
     
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  7. Gordonthetoony

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    My own personal opinion is a full house turns up on Saturday and give 100% vocal support to the team in the hope we get the 3 points. If by the West Ham game all hope has gone then EVERYONE boycotts that game to show Ashley, and the entire TV audience, that enough is enough.

    Wonder what's going on with Sports Direct. Daily Mirror and Daily Record report SD Head office was raided by police with regards to the Rangers situation.
     
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  8. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    I'm ending my self-imposed boycott on Saturday. I'll be there to cheer on and give support in the hope we get three points. Last game - If we are safe/ relegated then I won't be there. I suspect thousands of others won't be either.
     
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  9. Lord Jonjomort

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    Good on yer, mate. I'm up for QPR away if anyone can get me a ticket?
     
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  10. TurkeyToon

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    I`m with you here mate. Its been 2 years since i went to a game cos i was so sick of giving my money to SD. But on Saturday I am going, and im taling 2 kids for their first game ever. I have such mixed feeling about this. Is it better if we go down or stay up? I honestly do not know! But I think the atmos might be better on saturday, but I do not think the team will be any better. At least my kids might experience a football match a little bit like I first did all those years ago! I sort of hate myself for going. I feel like a fraud, but, ultimately, I never want to experience relegation again. So I will go, shout my heart out for MY CLUB, and hope the players respond, but I have my doubts!! HOW HAS IT COME TO THIS???
     
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  11. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    The club are panicking big style. Mike Ashley is terrified of the impact relegation could have on Sports Direct [not NUFC]; Charnley is worried about ticket sales. Charnley will lose his job in the summer I think along with the Financial Director. Ashley 'apparently' is furious at the day to day running of the club, so I would like to think that this summer will see a complete new philosophy but I'm not daft. They will do the same things over again.
     
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  12. TurkeyToon

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    Like all big business men Ashley is loyal to a fault to his staff. He belives evrything they tell him, until things become fecking obvious thay they were telling porkies, thats when they become ruthless.We are run by feckimg accountants, as are all business`s. I think the plan was to finish mid table for years, slowly build up the cash reserves, and then in 5-10 years time start to spend it. Football does not work like that though, you cant just tread water, you have to continually keep forging ahead, even after a bit cash splurge. A traditional business model can never be applied to a football club. You have to keep spending just to keep pace with everyone else. I hope Ashley can now open his eyes and realise this. When he does, I think he will make one of two choices, OK I have to keep spening every year, or, OK its time I sold this business. There are only two options, there is no middle way with a football club.
     
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    Football isn't a normal business - You have to continually invest huge sums of money to simply remain competitive. You cannot hope to run a PL club on an annual basis by continually cutting costs and reducing the numbers of the playing squad. It's simply suicide. We are paying the price for a short-sighted vision of football. This is the fault of Ashley and the people he employs. Charnley, Irvine, Carver, Stone, Woodman, the medical staff, most of the playing staff need to go in the summer. We need to start again with a new philosophy.
     
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  14. TurkeyToon

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    What really annoys me, and probably evry other fan, of football or Newcastle, is that we, the fans, can see the problems, but nobody ever listens to us. Our opinions are just ignored. We know far more than any corporate whore will ever know about football! But they they insist on trying to force a traditional business model onto football. It will not work! This is a unique business, normal models WILL NOT WORK.!! If you cannot accept this, then get out while you can, Take a hit, put it down to experience or whatever. Buy into this mad business wholesale or sell up and get out of it.!
     
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    I get your point, but imagine listening to the fans, I see some of them interviewed on SSN and some of the comments I read from fans and it really makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Alot of fans have conflicting views and the only way I think it can be managed successfully is the way that R.Madrid and Barca do it. They elect presidents based on the policies they put forward, no fan can moan or have an issue with an elected president. I dont think it could work here, but just to argue your point, imagine having some gomo calling the shots, just because his a fan
     
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  16. Lord Jonjomort

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    Mike Ashley put, in writing, that he accepted he would have to "spend" at least £20m a year of HIS money on the club. It's in writing. The fcker lied. He isn't even spending the fcking club's money, let alone his own.

    However, is it his decision or Llambias/Charnley? Would ANYONE trust those two fcking cnts? Only Ashley, it would seem. I mean, look at what Llambchops has done for Ashley at Rangers - he's got the fcking police knocking on his door because of the utter idiots he surrounds himself with. For me, the big man needs to wake up. He can change everything in a heartbeat.
     
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  17. whack&blite

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    This is a very good point. It's probably safe to say that Charnley is on a very highly incentivised bonus scheme, where if profits are high and bank balances are good, he stands to receive a bigger bonus. Hence the almighty risks taken in January. It's currently back firing and could potentially leave him without a job, let alone a healthy bonus.
     
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  18. TurkeyToon

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    With regards to fans opinions, some of them are extreme. But surely you weed out those opinions, and find a middle way. the vast maojority have quite obvious and clear opinions, most of them very measured. But at the moment, no opinions are even considered, until we are in dire straights, then they wheel out the club captain, in an attempt to say, ` we are listening to you!`, please support us! I`m sorry but this is not right, I can not undrstand why any fan would keep going to games and watching this rubbish! Its no good saying, `Ah well, it will make no difference anyway¬.! It will make a difference. Thats why they are so scared!
     
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  19. Warmir Pouchov

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    All well and good but its a bit ****ing late. Talk is cheap, end of story for me. Sounding the battle cry after recent events is an insult to everybody. Just get out on the pitch and do it with action. Eventually over time you might win a few round. I'm not interested in some short term charade that is solely aimed at protecting us from relegation. I want to see people give a **** on a consistent basis. Yes he alludes to not making the same mistakes etc but we've had almost 8 years on this merry go round, so unfortunately I've lost a little trust in all involved.

    I'm not bothered about getting relegated anymore. Colo and the rest can shove it in their dick hole :emoticon-0142-happy
     
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    They are running scared. Their loyal customer base is dissolving.
     
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